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Old 01-21-2023, 08:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
Isaac Zachary
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Originally Posted by Nissandriver View Post
It was intentional. Manuals usually lasted longer and got better mileage. From what little Ive read recently, automatics seem to compare more favorably than the past. A CVT might interest me if I knew it would last as long as a manual.
If the car has a 4 or 5 speed automatic, a manual can still compete with it (manuals need one more gear though to be comparible). But with 8 and 10 speed automatics, I don't think anyone is going to come out with (or want to drive) an 11 speed manual. And even then, the drive would have to be very contientious to match modern computer shifting.

Toyota's Hybrid CVT's seem to last a very long time (500,000 miles and up if the oil is changed on a regular basis). But the hybrid battery won't. Expect to replace it every 200,000 miles or 15 years. Still, with SUV's that get 40mpg and even a minivan that gets 36mpg the battery replacement may be worth it.
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