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Old 02-05-2023, 01:19 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JSH View Post
Toyota needs the EV - both in the EU and the USA. 95 Euro per gram CO2 adds up FAST. Both jurisdictions are also reducing the credit companies get from PHEVs. For example CARB only allows 20% of their ZEV requirements to be met with PHEVs.
Proof of nothing except know-nothing bureaucrats make demands based on no information. There'd be way less CO2 emissions if we had 4x more PHEVs than stupid EVs that people don't put many miles on in a year.

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BTW - While looking up that fact I also noticed that CARB is requiring a mandatory 10 year / 150K battery warrant for EVs instead of allowing manufacturers to set any warranty. For 2025 - 2029 a vehicle must maintain 70% of its original range. In 2030 that jumps to 80%.
See above about know nothing bureaucrats.

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I'm betting Toyota knows a bit more about the economics than you and I. They are the largest (10.5 million vehicle) AND most profitable full-line automaker for a reason.
I did mention my extreme lack of knowledge and zero experience. That said, what's the demand of the RAV4 Prime vs supply? 16 kWh was always the magic number, so why did nobody figure that out? The idiotic subsidy stumbled into a sweet spot of favoring PHEVs, which actually makes sense from a CO2 emission and consumer perspective.
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