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Old 02-14-2023, 11:22 PM   #175 (permalink)
Isaac Zachary
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Originally Posted by JSH View Post
Which is disappointing as it has been around since 2009. However, I doubt you are alone with as many people I see saying only rich people get tax credits buying EVs.
Of course to jump through the hoops to just get a tax credit via leasing means learning a whole new way of obtaining a vehicle. In other words, it opens up a can of questions (they might be wormy questions) that I'd need answered. Do I get to purchase the vehicle after I lease it? How would that compare to someone buying a new one and getting a full tax credit? What if I go over the mileage limit during the lease? I did over 30,000 miles the first year I had the Avalon, for an example. Does having a lease mean I get free oil changes at a dealer hundreds of miles away (or at least 70 miles to the nearest dealer)?

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The difference is WHO takes the credit - a business or the individual buying the car. However, it would be FAR easier and less confusing if the incentive was just a point of sale rebate. (Which is how Oregon does ours)
Yes, less confusing would be very welcome IMO! It sounds like an easy way to shoot yourself in the foot. For an example, I'm self employed. Knowing I'd get a large tax rebate at the end of the year might sound easier to do than to make it a point-of-sale and have to make quarterly tax payments. But if I owe $3,728 in income tax at the end of the year, then the IRS can keep the other $3,272 instead of being able to use that to pay the 15% self-employment tax (or some other payment or purchase).

But I think I got it now. Get it as a point-of-sale rebate, pay the quarterlies, and just keep swiming!

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
Making it a point of sale credit doesn't help much, because it's older, more wealthy people who purchase new cars. Most car sales are used cars. The average age of a new vehicle buyer is 54.
In theory that should make the used car market even cheaper. There's also going to be a tax credit/point-of-sale rebate for used EV's from what I understand.
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