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The issue is the legs, nerve endings and ladders, day or night. Don't know exactly where the legs are actually at, doing what ever unless visual confirmation available.
Have to walk in the gutter because I fall down sometimes at driveway slopes and curbs. Gutters are flat most of the time.
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casual notes from the underground:There are some "experts" out there that in reality don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
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