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Old 01-09-2024, 12:24 AM   #14 (permalink)
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CO2 reduction is a debateble topic, one that requires more evidence than armchair science.
That's precisely what I'm saying. Know-nothing irrational idiots need to put the numbers up, not pass legislation with no plan, no method of measurement, and no way to evaluate results.

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Are you sure that without the federal tax credit and all the different state incentives that the same number of EV's would have sold in the USA to date?
Of course I'm not sure. To be sure, we'd need to have an alternate universe where we played out the scenario where no idiotic and regressive subsidies were offered.

Are you sure that introducing the uncertainty of subsidies that rely on the whims of politics strengthened the confidence of automakers to produce more EVs, in a global marketplace where most countries don't have such a subsidy? Is it wise for the US to foist the tax burden on its citizens despite most manufacturers being foreign owned, and therefore a wealth transfer to other countries?

With my understanding of human behavior and related economics, I think EVs would be doing imperceptivity better without market manipulation (subsidies). The only achilles heel of EVs is the crummy battery, and there's already enormous incentive to make better batteries for a ton of product categories.

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Bolts are out of production. This is perhaps the last sub $30,000 Bolt out there.
I don't think I'm the only one saying the Bolt among the most suitable vehicles for you.

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Why don't you demonstrate your point instead?
My point that arbitrage tends to average the price of things?

If there's money to be made on price differentials, people will do it. Back when my friend was in college, he had a fraternity brother who was buying welding masks from Harbor Freight and reselling them online for a profit. Then he found the wholesaler for Harbor Freight and put in a big order and sold them for even more profit. Then he found the manufacturer and put in a gigantic order and filled several rooms of the fraternity with welding masks and made a huge profit.

My point is, even if you're GM and make the product at cost, that cost is above $12,500. You cannot buy an expensive retail product at way below cost.
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