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Old 03-25-2024, 08:42 PM   #920 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Piotrsko View Post
It has bubbled up through my consciousness that there be a significance between a pathological liar and someone who wrongly believes they were correct for whatever reason. Generally the population you've experienced would have been the latter. They both pass lie detection tests but for different reasons.

The pathological ones never feel remorse for anything. The remorse button is broken
A lie has 2 properties; a. intent to deceive, b. untrue

A person that wrongly believes something is not a liar. If I ask my wife where the keys are, and she says they are on the counter, but they are actually in her coat pocket, she's incorrect, but not a liar. She only met 1 of the 2 criteria for a lie.

Honesty is the process of truth seeking, and I'm inclined to believe it's more important than being correct, as dishonesty is disinterested with truth seeking.

Anyhow, this topic makes me think of "Shorty" in prison (there's perhaps 4 Shortys in a prison population of 400). He couldn't tell any story, no matter the significance, without embellishing to the point of maximum absurdity. If you play a game of Monopoly, he steals from the bank when you're not looking. If you play chess, he takes pieces when you're not paying attention.

This is a person that can never be integrated with society. Their OS is deceit and exploitation.

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I'm eyeballing a 2018 Chevy Bolt that would be under $9,000 with the federal tax credit. That's not including the Colorado Credit yet, up to $4,000 off that.

Anywho, I think we'll keep seeing this battle of the EV's take place which can suddenly make them depreciate greatly. I've seen a couple Tesla Model 3's now finally around $20,000 (I'm not sure if that's with the federal tax credit or not though).

There's also a Nissan Leaf for $1,000 for sale here nearby. It only has 25 miles of range though, but maybe it would help save fuel for around town (but maybe I should just get my bike fixed and ride that around town. If only it would stop snowing.
Get the Bolt; it's worth probably $11k here in Oregon private party. It'll go 15 years for you I bet.

Tesla announced a $1k across the board price increase for the Model Y next month. They seem to be the EV market maker. Would not expect prices to dip much lower on any EV unless there is a new model that has a temporary demand spike. The CyberTruck is one such vehicle. Some time next year, I expect the price to be lowered.

You know to avoid that Leaf. If it has 25 miles of range, that means 10 in winter. Good for getting the mail and not much else.
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