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Old 03-28-2024, 03:45 AM   #930 (permalink)
Isaac Zachary
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Avalon - '13 Toyota Avalon HV
90 day: 40.45 mpg (US)

Prius - '06 Toyota Prius
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Yes, the Trax is an economy car. As you noted it is 6th cheapest car on sale in the USA today and will likely be the the bottom 5 next year. It is also the most popular body style which means it actually sells in volume.

You have 4 "SUVs" including the Trax in your list. While the marketing teams might try to pass them off as a "crossover" only the Venue passes the test. The Soul, Trax, and Kicks are all legally classified as cars.

Vehicles like the Chevy Tahoe and Toyota 4 Runner are SUVs. Body-on-frame vehicles built on truck platforms with real 4WD.

The Trax is a car with a bit more ground clearance. 7.3 inches of ground clearance vs the 6.7 for a Civic doesn't make the Trax a death machine for pedestrians. Nothing like the full size trucks these days with the top of the hood at shoulder level.

On the other hand this Hyundai K4 wagon / hatch was announced today as a 2025 model in the USA. That is if you want a hatch with 6.6 inches of ground clearance instead of 7.3 inches.
We also don't know the price of the K4 as far as I know. Speculation seems to think it'll be $22,000 and up.

So one thing I'm thinking is that after the Versa and Mirage are out, there will be no more cars that are truely under $20,000 (including destination charges). But, the idea is that cars last longer and can get better fuel mileage. I'm not sure if they are a better deal, an equal deal (breaking even over the life of the vehicle compared to economy cars of old, adjusted for inflation) or if they're just a lot more car for a little more money.

What's with the need for more ground clearance? Are people off-roading in these? Or do people not want to have to sit "down" into a car? Personally I prefer a closer-to-ground feel than sitting up high, even as a commercial truck/bus driver. Not that it's a dealbreaker, although admittedly there are times when I did wish the Avalon were higher. I guess my dream car when I spontaneously become a millionaire would be one that has adjustable suspention. Good thing that's just a dream.

I don't think the average car buyer actually knows the difference between an SUV and a crossover.

I can see why people perfer a hatch with generous luggage space.
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