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Originally Posted by freebeard
I visited my friends upriver last night, and in the discussion he made reference to 'when the Capitol was attacked' without including the date. I said 'the British in 1812?' That really set him off.
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Of course you would, lol.
On that subject, I listened to Ann's podcast with Gavin, the founder of Proud Boys. He claims to have known the walk to the Capitol was a setup, and instructed his group to not go there. Not sure how effective that instruction was.
When you get angry mobs of those proportions, mayhem always ensues. It could be a sports team losing a championship, a BLM protest, or a political loss... the orderly majority will be overshadowed by the disorderly few, and the "mostly peaceful" demonstration will be forgotten due to the not-peaceful fraction.
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They watch the TV news every night and think I'm uninformed. I remind them of the quote [mis]attributed to Samuel Clemens:
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I've experienced that as a subject in a newspaper article. Figured they got the facts wrong just in the piece I happened to be in, and expert to, not realizing it's commonplace. Scott references that error and it has a name, I'm just not recalling it at the moment.
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I also remind them occasionally:
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I'm partial to that quote since it flatters my interest.
To put a finer point on the morality of the use of nuclear weapons, you're already aware that more people were killed in the conventional bombings that took place than both A-bombs. If regular bombs were justifiable; the more explody ones were too.
The moral high ground was achieved by not flattening a defeated enemy, and allowing their sovereignty to remain, while developing into an economic powerhouse and ally.
Perhaps I'm biased though, since I would not exist but for those particular events (being 1/4 Japanese).