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Originally Posted by Logic
I assume you are not rabidly opposed to ZDDP in motor oil?
IF:"1) 'coefficient of friction '
3) 'pin-on-disc' testing"
etc
"have absolutely nothing to do with automotive lubrication" THEN:Why does one get 10 pages of (mostly research) results from a search for:
decrease in "coefficient of friction" of ZDDP Supplement (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate)? https://www.google.com/search?q=decr...&bih=906&dpr=1
Why are there 7 pages of (mostly research) results for:
"pin on disk" tests for ZDDP Supplement (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate)
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p...&bih=906&dpr=1
Could it be that BEFORE testing things in running engines, tribologists at research institutes first test with the the de facto test equipment found in all such labs?
There are 15 pages of (mostly research) results for:
"pin on disk" test essential initial testing equipment
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p...&bih=906&dpr=1
IF as you say no one should be testing this in their engines:
WHERE and how would YOU test it with no chance of breaking your daily transport?
I did suggest speaking to your mechanic to find someone who was about to bring in their car to have their old, worn, smokey but otherwise OK engine rebuilt as a means of testing in a real engine with nothing to lose.
I don't recall your your reaction to that?
Most likely ignored? Or rejected for some "certain it wont work" reason?
What was it again?
I have linked tons of peer reviewed, published research pointing to the fact that it is worth trying.
Have you posted one?? Why not?
(IIRC this question got ignored like you have trouble comprehending it!?)
IN OTHER WORDS:
As far as verifiable sources of info on the; 'why try it' vs 'why not' goes:
The score is what?
20+ to 0
Here is what the peer review, before publishing process entails people:
Peer review is the system used to assess the quality of a manuscript before it is published. Independent researchers in the relevant research area assess submitted manuscripts for originality, validity and significance to help editors determine whether a manuscript should be published in their journal.
https://www.biomedcentral.com/getpub...review-process
Peer review is a process used by researchers to evaluate the quality and validity of academic research papers before they are published in a journal. In this process, an author submits their work, which is then evaluated by a panel of experts in the same field, known as peers or referees. These reviewers evaluate the paper based on its scientific quality, novelty, and relevance to the field.
https://www.aje.com/arc/types-of-peer-review/
If anyone looks like they don't know whatTF they are talking about here; it's YOU!
BRING THE RESEARCH!
People are likely wondering if you are capable of such!
You do seem to be having trouble fully reading and comprehending posts like this? |
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The pin-on-disc test examples that I've looked at are incapable of generating the ' engine speed, pressure, and temperature conditions motor oils experience while in service within an automotive engine. I believe that all tribologists would agree that their utility is strictly limited to 'boundary region' lubrication, which according to my sources, wouldn't exist inside a properly-functioning engine, except under failure.
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I can see that 'pick-and-shovel work' might b conducted as a gross means to winnow down candidates for additives, but nothing more.
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And watch your language! 'Whiskey Tango Foxtrot' is non-approved here, or anywhere else.