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Originally Posted by Logic
Not a one.
Yet it works.
As they attested.
As I attested. Are you calling me a liar?
When there is scientific research, as demanded above, that also doesn't count.
What does?
So what does count?
and again:
If scientific research and field tests and anecdotal evidence is not allowed:
How did ZDDP make its way into engine oil????
How did ANY of the additives found in engine oils get there if one is not allowed to use:- Tribological research equipment.
- Field tests where there was a 6 to 10% improvement in fuel economy.
- Try it for yourself.
API Annual Meeting Marketing Division in 1948 [6];
‘‘Ten years ago additives were looked upon by lubricating-oil manufacturers as costly gadgets, and it was not unusual to hear them disparagingly referred to as ‘‘mouse milk.’’ However much has happened in the past 10 years..."
https://sci-hub.ru/https://link.spri...ticle/10.1023/ https://ecomodder.com/forum/B:TRIL.0000044495.26882.b5
Sounds familiar somehow, yet there ZDDP etc is in oil.
You do realize that:
If the engine and/or oil manufacturers were paying moles to squash any talk of Boric Acid as a lubricant; They would act just as you are, although probably not contradict themselves quite as much..!
To anyone actually reading this; it's you that looks suspect by: - Skipping such questions.
- Quoting the DOE's Argonne National Labs research after trying to convince people said research is from suspect sources.
- etc.
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* In 1938, Italy and Germany were the only nations that had highway infrastructure good enough to operate automobiles at speeds ( loads ) that would necessitate the 'need' for motor oil 'additives'.
* My roommate at Edwards Air Force Base in 1972 had a 1931 Chevrolet sedan we got running and drove for a year and a half before he traded it for another 'toy.'
Even at the 55-mph speed limit, we had to be mindful how we drove it, being 'pre-Autobahn'.
* World War-II started in 1939, and other than 'inventing' chromium piston rings for Allied tanks operating in the desert of North Africa, it would be 1945 before technologists could really focus on much else but the war effort.
* Your tasked with proving your 6%-10% mpg improvement from boric acid ( or are we still on ZDDP?
* The others and yourself have provided no 'evidence' that could sway anyone who knows about engines. Like I've told you about three times now; your fuel economy, on any given day, will change by 20%, without doing 'ANYTHING' to the car. And you appear to be stupifyingly incurious on the matter.
* What boric oxide is, is not 'ceramic.'
* MotorSilk is getting $ 359/gallon for a treatment while they make no quantifiable mpg, claim about 'Erdemir's 'invention.'
* If you read MotorSilk's performance data for comprehension and did mathematics, you'd avoid MotorSilk like forest fires.
* I didn't fall off the cabbage truck, and I wasn't born yesterday. I wouldn't touch boric acid with a ten-foot pole after reading about it. It's a solution to a problem nobody has.
* Argonne never published results from ASTM D8114 Sequence VIE testing, something MotorSilk did! And it's what they published about it that was the deal-breaker. I won't spoil your borgasm.