[freebeard]

Originally Posted by aerohead

As to Euclid, he came thousands of years after Sun Tsu published. And for him to be in a position to ponder his universe, would require the stability, security, shelter, safety, surplus sustenance, etc., only afforded by a viable nation state, in order for him to 'self-actualize.'
It's a 1st- Principle thing laid out by Sun Tsu.

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Three hundred years.

The viable nation state would necessarily precede to writings of Sun Tzu. Hammurabi?

Hammurabi
Sixth king of Babylon (r. 1792–1750 BC)
Hammurabi, also spelled Hammurapi, was the sixth Amorite king of the Old Babylonian Empire, reigning from c. 1792 to c. 1750 BC. He was preceded by his father, Sin-Muballit, who abdicated due to failing health. During his reign, he conquered the city-states of Larsa, Eshnunna, and Mari. Wikipedia

Euclid was a necessary precursor to your 1930s Zepplin engineers, not Sun Tzu. Here's a suggestion: Sun Tzu is superceded by the OODA Loop.

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