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Old 12-02-2008, 06:55 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by theunchosen View Post
You really didn't even read the part about your cat not having an ECU?
I did read it - I didn't respond because it's further from the point.

I see the hangup - you're totally ignoring the emissions standards that I was referring to in my post that you responded to....

Tell me how many grams per mile of CO2 Tier II permits (pick any bin) and that should resolve all of this

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It's very easy to insult your opponent and attack their character. It's more difficult to prove a point.
Please don't take any of this as insulting.... But, it's very difficult to prove a point when you're arguments are off topic

We started with the alleged consumption hit from new TierII standards for diesels - you're arguing CO2 emissions. CO2 is not a part of of TierII emissions. NMOG, CO, NOx, PM, HCHO would be the ones. Yes, I will agree that CO2 is proportional to consumption - but, it's irresponsible to ignore everything else.

I stand by what I said originally when I jumped in
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So yes, you might take a consumption hit - no, you won't put out more pollutants. The emissions standards control that
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I hear you (by you, I mean in a general sense) saying that emissions standards are killing FE for diesels.... I'd believe you if it weren't for the fact that emissions standards are NOT killing FE as according to fuel economy testing
That was in response to this false statement
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If you can emissions control without negatively influencing my MPG by even a single drop fine. Otherwise its creating more pollution.
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