mmmm, 3 miles one way for me, 1 mile for the wife. 8 miles total for the day if we just use the car for commuting. It's sad, because I can't get her to bike or walk that distance, so I either let her warm the car up for 10 minutes each morning, or I use it and it's warm when she gets to it (I work nights, she days, works well) so she doesn't let it idle.
![Frown](/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif)
no winning for me unless it's summer and 60+ outside. I hate short drives like this, it really wears the car down fast.