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Old 04-08-2009, 01:46 PM   #70 (permalink)
wagonman76
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Christ has a point. Its the side that the law takes. Whichever party is breaking the law automatically loses. If you are speeding and I turn out too soon for you to avoid me, its your fault. People abuse this idea. I've seen it happen. A friend of mine got hit by someone who was speeding when she turned out. Otherwise she would have had time to get to speed. She didn't. Thank God I was there and ratted the guy out on speeding(his skid marks were pretty damning evidence) otherwise I don't think the cop would have checked.
However I have another friend who goes unnamed who intentionally pulled out in front of a speeder just outside the normal range, to get his car repaired. Stupid I know, but he did it. Officer came ticketed the other guy insurance fixed his car.
If the people around you are breaking the law whatever happens as a result is there fault.
You can't cheat an honest man and if you don't do anything wrong you can't get in trouble.
Just because other people are driving aggressively doesn't mean you won't get a ticket and does mean you have a 50-50 shot of being responsible for any accidents. Otherwise you have a 0% chance for a ticket or higher insurance premiums.
I've only seen this happen once in Michigan, and due to public outcry there was an actual investigation. A guy in an SUV going 70+ (according to the black box in the SUV) in a 45 zone t-boned a carload of teens pulling out of the mall. They had no chance to even see him coming first, that's why it's 45 through there. He got 2 years for it.

Every other time I've heard about, it's always the other person's fault for failure to yield, no matter what. It's easier to just give the ticket to the person hit rather than investigate the speed and behavior of the other person.

As far as hypermiling getting a bad name, I never thought it was for driving slower than others. It was because of the few who go to all extremes to gain FE, doing unsafe/illegal things like running stop signs, very close drafting, going way over the speed limit so they can coast up the next hill, etc.
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