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Originally Posted by Wonderboy

I don't know how willing they are to continue the debate or be wrong, but I'd simply tell them to check their facts first instead of deferring to what they've been told.

"Don't be a baby bird that waits eagerly for cherry-picked information to be regurgitated into you - the best information is attained by being your own investigator, triangulating sources, and figuring it out for yourself."

-roughly quoted from Scott Ritter, former U.N. weapons inspector.

I would believe 17mpg is good mileage if I'd never heard of anyone getting over 20, but a lot of people (and just plain cars regardless of how they're driven) get well over 17. The argument could be made that "getting insanely good mileage takes a lot of work and customization" , which could easily be proven incorrect as well.

Be prepared to win this debate, but also be prepared to be called a f@g or un-american or some similar bullsh!t. Even most jeep owners know they're not good, they're supposed to be "fun". Jeeps are designed for OFF-roading.

My wife gets mad at me sometimes for complaining about fuel mileage... as do other people.

Here's a hint: If you don't care what people think of you, they're more likely to stop hating on you. And you're more likely to do what's best for yourself, rather than what pleases others.