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Old 04-15-2009, 09:49 AM   #42 (permalink)
Shawn D.
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Originally Posted by Christ View Post
You just contradicted yourself... if you're taking the bends out, flow will have increased velocity and lower pressure than if there are (even smooth) bends.

You say that there are no measurable gains from "taking a few bends out of the exhaust", yet you claim that there are measurable gains from "mandrel-bent curves" in the exhaust.

So, given the OP's question, you're essentially telling him that more power can be had using a mandrel-bent, curvy exhaust, than a straight, bend-free, less restrictive exhaust, correct?
No, I did not contradict myself. As you quoted me, I said "taking a few bends out of the exhaust," not taking all bends out of the exhaust. He would not be able to make a perfectly straight exhaust; changing the angle of the engine would only take out one 90° bend per cylinder, leaving the rest of the curvy exhaust. If bends were such a killer, racers wouldn't go to extreme effort to fabricate "bag of snakes" headers to make equal-length primaries and instead would go for the straightest design -- that is not how it is done. Racers do, however, rely on mandrel-bent tubing. Get it, now?

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Originally Posted by Christ View Post
I wouldn't be so quick to shoot it down, is all I'm saying.
I wouldn't be so quick to shoot down my shooting it down, is all I'm saying about your saying.

Bringing up valid arguments against something isn't being "so quick to shoot it down" anyhow.
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