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Old 04-17-2009, 02:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
theunchosen
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Originally Posted by evolutionmovement View Post
The problem with cars is the classic one of them being at least partly an emotional purchase, rather than a more strictly practical one, which makes marketing a large factor in sales success. Even the people I know that couldn't care less about cars have a favorite one (though most classics weren't designed by committees or marketing departments). I don't think the same thing could be said about toasters, though catchy design has made its way into the appliance segment in about the last 10 years, so my long-abused analogy is dating badly. Nevertheless (and unable to let my analogy go quietly into that good night), those appliance designs are, as theunchoosen suggested for ways of improvement, predominately done by engineers and made attractive by designers. Form follows function. That should be the mantra of any designer, however, nowadays most of the people referred to as designers are really just stylists. A designer should be involved with product functional improvement as well as appearance. The engineers should be there to slap them into sensibility if the design violates physics or common sense. That push-pull relationship between engineering and design is what works best, but only if the relationship is equal, which it isn't when marketing gets involved and sides with the designers/stylists or imposes "design" of their own [shudder].
Enter the C1, the website has audio so turn your speakers down before jumping and then find the mute sound switch at the bottom left of the mid screen picture (MotoCzysz home). Its NOT FE friendly but it is designed by an engineer above all else.

Thats why I like cars like the Ariel Atom, Honda NSX, Lotus(virtually all of their cars), McClaren F1, Gallardo, Murcielago, and Enzo. They are engineered cars not designed. Yeah the Insight is too it gets major props(I'm a biased petrolhead. . .at heart so I favor those others first).

If the vehicle looks spartan, but allows for FE and HP(lotus), I will love it period. The Insight's only got half that package but its FE side is far superior but its not a balance of car performance(a measure of the vehicles ability to economically travel from a to b as well as provide exhilerating rush to wherever once or twice a month.)

Thats all I ask. Fire your marketing people make it look roughly like a car with a very aero frame from CF/FG throughout ultra-lightweight rims GDI with ultra-lean burn capability and an on off supercharger and you can give me cranking windows(or a big bar that slides up and down thats bolted to the window for all I care).
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