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' SUV vs Minivan nomenclature '
From my magazine articles, the journalists use the 'approach, breakover, and departure' clearance angles as a metric to 'define' an SUV.
My BOLT is described as a 'station wagon' instead of a 'crossover utility vehicle' because of these three angle criteria.
Air suspension could make the difference. 
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03-13-2025, 10:45 AM
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' wheel arches '
If the major platform design runs for 8-years, with a 'refresh' @ 4-years, from a 'styling' point of view, these plastic inserts could be changed every year, giving a 'new car look' for customers, without any alteration to the structural hardpoint attachment, allowing annual 'aesthetics' dynamism at a very low production cost penalty.
The body color arches will no doubt be experienced by buyers as a 'premium' feature, a 'value' proposition for the car's competing market price-point. Something KIA, Hyundai, Genesis is striving for globally.
Old timers may recognize a vestigial remnant design element of the air fences from the 1950s M-B 300 SL Coupe embossed atop the Hyundai's arches.
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' front cargo carrier '
* The front electronic sensor suite might be 'disabled' by the presence of the optical, radar, laser, 'obstruction', rendering all the collision-avoidance technology null and void.
* It would also move the car's center of pressure forwards, creating an aerodynamic understeer, where oversteer originally occurred, dangerous at high speed, high gust.
* The polar moment of inertia would also be affected, and in an emergency, make rapid steering corrections impossible.
* Due to the OEM Prandtl surfaces of discontinuity, there'd likely be zero aerodynamic advantage to to already-existing flow saturation.
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Roof rack it is! 
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03-20-2025, 12:36 AM
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From my magazine articles, the journalists use the 'approach, breakover, and departure' clearance angles as a metric to 'define' an SUV.
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The Renault Kwid was certified in Brazil as SUV...
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' certified '
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The Renault Kwid was certified in Brazil as SUV...
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With it's higher ground clearance, and short overhangs on both ends, it should easily satisfy the SUV metrics. 
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Xist has an announcement.
This is not a minivan though.
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03-25-2025, 01:39 AM
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With it's higher ground clearance, and short overhangs on both ends, it should easily satisfy the SUV metrics. 
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And its footprint is bigger than of a Jeep CJ-3b, which is shorter and narrower 
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I do?!
Is it about Xistday?!
Happy Xistday in arrears! 
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Hyundai IONIQ 9 AWD
MotorTrend recently road tested the AWD version, of which the aero degrades to Cd 0.269. 'Wheels' have been identified as the culprit for the drag difference on the other Hyundai, KIA, Genesis models.
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