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Old 12-15-2014, 09:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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freebeard- Then there was the scene in MASH where Houlihan was upset about an operation and said "That man is a prisoner of war, Doctor." Trapper John didn't look up, he just said "So are you, sweetheart, but you don't know it."

One afternoon there was a crowd of about 20 or so that were all agitated up at the front of our compound. We were just watching the show without any concern. At one point one of them said with a great deal of pain "You don't understand... You have freedom!" We dissolved in laughter- he probably going to get home before we did. They got confused, quieted down and drifted away.

I guess the Pentagon is going to want us to send back our Global War on Terrorism medals and replace them with "I Helped Found ISIS and All I Got Was This Lousy Tee Shirt."

I read the link. Did Gordon Duff find the outline to an unpublished Ludlum novel?

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Old 12-16-2014, 01:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Let's put it this way: I had to look up Robert_Ludlum. He sounds like another Dan Brown.

I've been reading Gordon Duff for years. His bio:
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Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades.

...is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues.

...has traveled extensively, is published around the world and is a regular guest on TV and radio in more than "several" countries.

...is a trained chef, wine enthusiast, avid motorcyclist and gunsmith specializing in historical weapons and restoration.

Business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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When you start tracing back, looking for the root cause of everything, every intersection of American Foreign Policy with Middle Eastern politics results in a cascade of unintended consequences. Backing the Afghans against the Russians. Backing Saddam against Iran. The Afghanistan/Iraqi conflicts.You just can't win.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That's a given: it's one of the two classic blunders. Most us us knew that going in, but this is a little more of a direct personal involvement in the actual blunder than I had realized. I wasn't just pumping fuel or guarding a FOB in the same war these guys got started in. I worked directly with some of them.
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If we are to learn anything from the movies, now you must go meditate in the mountains and send a psychic message to your younger self to either kill these would be Osama Bin Ladens or give them free porn, in order to instill a love for all things 'Murican in them.
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There's a guard on the second shift comes on at three
And he's always about a half inch off of me
Like he needs to keep remindin' me that I'm not free

God forgive him 'cause he doesn't see
He's no less a prisoner 'cause he holds a key
And God forbid he turn his back on me
Steve Earle — The Truth
Steve Earle great songwriter, musician and right-thinking guy. The Truth fantastic song, very good lyrics.
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Old 09-17-2016, 02:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks. He's no one-hit wonder. Apropos of the thread:

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Steve Earle
I woke up this morning, and none of the news was good
Death machines were rumblin' 'cross the ground where Jesus stood
And the man on my TV told me that it had always been that way
And there was nothing anyone could do or say
And I almost listened to him
Yeah, I almost lost my mind

And I regained my senses again
Looked into my heart to find
That I believe that one fine day all the children of Abraham
Will lay down their swords forever in Jerusalem
Well maybe I'm only dreamin' and maybe I'm just a fool
But I don't remember learnin' how to hate in Sunday school
Somewhere along the way I strayed and I never looked back again
But I still find some comfort now and then
Then the storm comes rumblin' in
And I can't lay me down
And the drums are drummin' again
And… Full lyrics on Google Play Music
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How dare you use common sense and reasoning. You obviously haven't drank enough kool aid yet.
Proceed quickly to the nearest TV for reprogramming...

*cough*... I meant for the official story...*cough*...*cough*...






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That's funny... Sadly true, but yet ironically funny.
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"And I almost listened to him
Yeah, I almost lost my mind"
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Old Tele man -- when you post and delete, the email notifications have already gone out. It's an interesting approach to limiting the audience.

I like candy-coated better.

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