03-03-2018, 01:08 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Lurker
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
|
Plug in Prius on a shoestring
I have a 2009 Prius that has a blown head gasket - approx. $2200 to repair.
It still runs fine, but it blows gases from a cylinder into the water jacket and blows the coolant out. It goes about 30 miles before it overheats.
Most of our errands are about 5 miles round trip, but with antifreeze costing 4 times as much as gasoline it is expensive to drive.
I understand one can force a Prius into "out of gas" mode by installing a switch in series with the fuel pump fuse, but that will only get me a mile or so at speeds up to about 50 mph. What if I were to put 16 12 volt lead acid batteries in the back and wired the string in parallel (via a contactor) with the factory battery pack? How big of batteries would I need to get 10 - 15 mile range? Would U1 garden tractor batteries do it? Or am I nutz for even considering doing this?
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 01:27 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,549
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
|
Pleez don't.
Research Hybrid Synergy Drive. It is the technology Toyota use in the Prius, Highlander and Lexus.
Don't work with lead-acid batteries. They are not fit for purpose. 16x how many pounds?
You could convert to a pure EV, but use compatible OEM parts.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 04:02 AM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,747
Thanks: 75
Thanked 577 Times in 426 Posts
|
Fix the head gasket. Unless it's got a million miles on it, it's worth fixing. Even if you sell it off after. Or just sell it to someone who will fix it, but you'll take a big hit.
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 05:15 AM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 734
Thanks: 26
Thanked 304 Times in 171 Posts
|
__________________
Now, Cole, when you shift the gear and that little needle on the ammeter goes into the red and reads 2000 Amps, that's bad.
www.evbmw.com
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 06:25 AM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,549
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
|
Now I'm not sure what to say. I came back to point to this thread, in this subforum:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ild-36203.html
But the OP there is jackbauer and he didn't suggest an EV solution.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 06:25 AM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Master EcoWalker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,455 Posts
|
Lots of complete Prius engines on the internet for less than $1000. How can a gasket be $2200?
Get quotes from other workshops...
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.
For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 09:40 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 1,745
Thanks: 206
Thanked 420 Times in 302 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDevil
Lots of complete Prius engines on the internet for less than $1000. How can a gasket be $2200?
Get quotes from other workshops...
|
Replacement for sure, especially on that vintage more are going to the scrap yard everyday. Some yards even offer labor to do the work.
http://www.car-part.com/mobile/index.htm
I have had a friend who used the bars leak product and followed the directions exactly, fixed an old Saturn. If it works it would certainly be cheaper than replacement.
__________________
Last edited by ksa8907; 03-03-2018 at 09:46 AM..
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 01:38 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Elmira, NY
Posts: 1,790
Thanks: 320
Thanked 358 Times in 299 Posts
|
I'd flush and clean the cooling system before adding a sealant. Check the torque on the head bolts also. If the cheap solution works, great. If not then the cylinder head has to come off and gets milled flat again or replaced. Most of the cost is direct labor. A good repair manual will have the necessary info to do the job.
|
|
|
03-03-2018, 05:08 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
Too many cars
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New York State
Posts: 1,605
Thanks: 1,355
Thanked 801 Times in 477 Posts
|
__________________
2000 Honda Insight
2000 Honda Insight
2000 Honda Insight
2006 Honda Insight (parts car)
1988 Honda CRXFi
1994 Geo Metro
|
|
|
03-04-2018, 01:53 PM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Lurker
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by squatch81
Or am I nutz for even considering doing this?
|
I see this is the general consensus.
I do plan on repairing the engine eventually, but I do not have the funds at this time. My brother, who is much better connected than I am, checked around for me and reported the $2200 is the low end of the range for mechanics in the area. Almost all labor, and requires special tools. We even checked for auto mechanics trade schools in the area without success.
What I was going for is a simple stop-gap to save on the short trips. My other vehicle is a 4WD with a V10 and only gets 10mpg. I only used it for hauling and plowing the driveway before and now my fuel bill is through the roof.
|
|
|
|