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bhazard 01-17-2016 04:01 PM

1.0L Ecoboost?
 
I see Ford has started offering this engine in the US Focus finally. Surprised me honestly since its a good 40hp drop from the base 2.0L engine.

Pretty much same mileage as the Fiesta 1.0, but you get an extra gear in the Focus. Rated 42 hwy, 43 hwy in the Fiesta.

Anyone have real world results?

The_Jed 01-17-2016 04:04 PM

Also interested in this. :)

cptsideways 01-17-2016 05:04 PM

What are the US fuel figures, in Europe we get some stupidly optimistic figures based on an imaginary drive in a closed cell road road in ideal conditions.

Imperial figures
Engine: 1.0T EcoBoost 100ps
Official MPG: 58.9–60.1 mpg
Real MPG Avg.: 40.6 mpg
Real MPG %: 69%

roosterk0031 01-17-2016 05:56 PM

Not interested in DI problems, prefer the 2.0 FFV, KISS

bhazard 01-17-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptsideways (Post 505038)
What are the US fuel figures, in Europe we get some stupidly optimistic figures based on an imaginary drive in a closed cell road road in ideal conditions.

Imperial figures
Engine: 1.0T EcoBoost 100ps
Official MPG: 58.9–60.1 mpg
Real MPG Avg.: 40.6 mpg
Real MPG %: 69%

123hp/148lbft
30 city/42 highway for the Focus 6 speed manual (Same as my Mk6 Golf TDI)

I believe 43 highway in the Fiesta 5 speed manual

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 01-19-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roosterk0031 (Post 505042)
Not interested in DI problems, prefer the 2.0 FFV, KISS

Isn't the 2.0 FFV also fitted with DI? Even here in Brazil the 2.0 FFV has DI.

oldtamiyaphile 01-19-2016 07:13 PM

I have a sort of Ecoboost, Fiat's 0.875l Twinair 2cyl Turbo.

There's a two sided problem with all these small capacity turbos, boost=fun, but boost also means fuel enrichment (which comes on at very low boost- these cars can't really be driven off boost). Most people will struggle to get near the official NEDC figures, US EPA figures should be easier.

You can look at my fuel graph to see how much my economy improved as the engine wore in (still not fully run in IMO), this is why all the press cars were criticized for such poor economy.

I've managed an 80mpg run of about 14miles, starting and ending at the same point. At around 50mph on 'level' ground I can cruise at 80~100 MPG.

However, UFI is my weekend fun car, so I mix hypermiling with thrashing. My 48MPG 90 day is pretty good considering. We did a run with the Prius and UFI at the same time (switching drivers at half way), UFI beat the Prius by 7 MPG.

Given that UFI's the size of a Geo Metro (but a fair bit taller), and we've seen those hit 100mpg, while UFI's current tank sits at 58mpg -and is pretty close to the limit for this car you can decide if it's good or bad. With the base 4cyl, I expect I'd be knocking on 100mpg, but only with extensive EOC.

So I guess if you like EOC, stick to NA engines, if you don't like to have a bit of fun occasionally and can restrain yourself, these baby boosted models might be for you.

bhazard 01-27-2016 06:37 PM

Can't believe how little input I got here

The_Jed 01-27-2016 08:48 PM

I like the torque curve of the engine; it peaks low and is pretty flat.

ksa8907 01-27-2016 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhazard (Post 505865)
Can't believe how little input I got here

Maybe you could post it on facebook?

redpoint5 01-27-2016 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhazard (Post 505865)
Can't believe how little input I got here

Have you found any in the Ecomodder garage? Silence is likely an indication of ignorance. Rather than get single anecdotes on a forum, it's more useful to see a compilation of data such as...

Ford Focus Mileage | Fuelly

My MPG Estimates

Out of only 10 entries, it looks to be averaging 36 MPG.

Vman455 01-28-2016 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhazard (Post 505865)
Can't believe how little input I got here

Ever since gas prices dropped, it's been pretty quiet around here. Even before that, I don't think any regular posters had a 1.0L Ecoboost car. I thought about getting one, a white Fiesta sedan, but went with a Prius instead.

niky 01-29-2016 03:43 AM

Dont' think anyone has the Focus 1.0 here.

I've driven the Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost with DCT. Didn't find it any more economical than a decent 1.6, but it was still pretty "green" when I drove it. Perhaps with more miles on the car, it would have been better.

Engine is good. Hate the transmission. A bit lumpy around town. Combined with a throttle that sticks open too long after you let off, it's a bit meh compared to a good traditional automatic like the Mazda2's.

mosesvp 01-29-2016 07:51 AM

I have had the ecoboost fiesta since October 2014. I have tracked all my fuel purchases since I joined ecomodder in November 2015.

My real-world numbers have been excellent. I typically average about 45-46 mpg during my commute in the spring through fall. When I have to take trips where the drive is all freeway, it easily hits 50 for the trip. Being in Ohio, the cold takes its toll in the winter. Once the temperature drops below 40 F, it is difficult to keep the mpg's up.

My last few tanks have only averaged about 41. We have had a lot of days near 0 F and lots of wind. I have been very happy with the car because of how easy it is to get the good mpg. I have had one tank where the average was below 40 (39.9), which was the first tank I had the car.

oldtamiyaphile 01-29-2016 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesvp (Post 505964)
I have had the ecoboost fiesta since October 2014. I have tracked all my fuel purchases since I joined ecomodder in November 2015.

I looked over your fuel log, what do you mean by "changed acceleration rates. Seems what works best in the summer is not as good as the winter."?

mosesvp 01-29-2016 09:35 AM

I started to accelerate more quickly. With the really cold weather, it takes a lot longer to warm up and get into the more efficient zone for the car. Accelerating a little harder helped speed up this process.

Miller88 01-29-2016 02:14 PM

I'm considering a Focus 1.0L. Not because the 1.0L is an impressive engine or because it gets good mileage, but because the 5 speed transmission used behind the 2.0L NA engine is awful to drive.

It should work out well. Provided you know how to drive a GTDI engine for fuel mileage.

MPGomatic 01-30-2016 01:45 PM

I haven't been in the Focus yet, but I tested the Fiesta 1.0L a while back. It's an amazing little beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJhftXqBZs

I'd be happy to have a Fiesta as a DD, but I'm torn between the tiny three and the ST. So much bang for the buck with the ST. Wicked fun when you're on it and does okay MPG wise if you have the discipline to stay out of the boost.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 02-02-2016 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miller88 (Post 505995)
I'm considering a Focus 1.0L. Not because the 1.0L is an impressive engine or because it gets good mileage, but because the 5 speed transmission used behind the 2.0L NA engine is awful to drive.

It's kinda surprising to me that a manual transmission is available for the Focus with the 2.0L there in the States. Here in Brazil it's only available with the 1.6L.

Anyway, since nowadays the 1.0L Ecoboost is the engine of choice in about 25% of the brand-new Ford cars in Europe, there might be a good reason for its availability to be extended to the U.S.-spec Focus too. It has been rumored that it's also coming to the Argentinian Focus, with the engines to be supplied from the Camaçari engine plant.

The_Jed 02-10-2016 08:09 AM

I'll be looking at a '14 EcoBoost Fiesta later today or later this week.


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