EcoModder.com

EcoModder.com (https://ecomodder.com/forum/)
-   Aerodynamics (https://ecomodder.com/forum/aerodynamics.html)
-   -   10$ Air Dam. Another One. (https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/10-air-dam-another-one-28326.html)

sarguy01 03-01-2014 07:11 PM

10$ Air Dam. Another One.
 
Edit. ABA testing in. Need more testing...

Route was one mile long. Set cruise at same points and canceled at same points. Used Torque to data log.
A - Two runs, ran both ways, with the dam.
B - Two runs, ran both ways, without the dam.
A - Two runs, ran both ways, with the dam.

Here are the numbers:
MPH MPG
A Run 1 51.44 32.46
B Run 1 51.97 32.66
A Run 1 51.48 32.83
A Run 2 51.26 33.68
B Run 2 51.13 33.43
A Run 2 51.74 34.02
For Run 1, this is a .06% loss.
For Run 2, this is a 1.25% gain.

Using median, to rule out outliers, I'd be at a .13% gain and a 1% loss.

Not what I was hoping for. 1.25% is hardly a gain for me. That is a .375 mpg increase. Hardly conclusive.

Original Post:
I had some time today to get out in the garage. I had to run to Home Depot for some other stuff so I grabbed the $10 lawn edging. Here are the pics of the install. No A B A testing yet. Hopefully I can get some testing done soon. I am hoping there will positive results like the rest of the air dams usually produce.

This is version one. If I find it needs to be beefed up, I will. I am leaving it like this for now.

The pics are pretty self explanatory.

Here is the aluminum angle I had sitting in the garage and the lawn edging.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...psef59f8d2.jpg

Before...
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...pseb9723bb.jpg

Here is the first piece of angle attached to the bottom of the bumper.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps84df462a.jpg

I used this saw to cut the angle. Took seconds for each cut.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...psd8e364d5.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps505ea192.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...pse22f0915.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps7e3a3356.jpg

Yeah, I used sheet rock anchors to go into the plastic bumper. They were free.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...psa777b5e2.jpg

I just drilled through the edging and riveted it to the angle. Pretty simple.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...pse1fc0282.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps9622926b.jpg

This stupid sticker didn't come off. I started riveting and realized it was there. I tried to rip it off and it didn't come off. Ughh. I'll have to scrape it off. Someday.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps399a38b4.jpg

This is the side view. The edging, width wise, goes from the outside of one tire to the outside of the other tire.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps6168de2a.jpg

If I missed something, please feel free to let me know.

A grill block made of roof flashing may be coming soon. A WAI is also going to be tested, as soon as I make it and get some free time.

user removed 03-01-2014 07:27 PM

Bock that lower grille with some pipe insulation.

regards
Mech

jeff88 03-01-2014 10:34 PM

I've read on other threads that it's better for the air dam to go from half way/middle of tire to half way/middle of tire. If you have the air dam from outside edge to outside edge the air won't 'wrap' around the side of the car, rater be pushed out at an angle away from the car.

Again, this is what I have read, hopefully Aerohead or somebody more knowledgeable than me will chime in.

tvbd56 03-02-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff88 (Post 413306)
I've read on other threads that it's better for the air dam to go from half way/middle of tire to half way/middle of tire. If you have the air dam from outside edge to outside edge the air won't 'wrap' around the side of the car, rater be pushed out at an angle away from the car.

Again, this is what I have read, hopefully Aerohead or somebody more knowledgeable than me will chime in.

I second this. That's the way I had it before was outside to outside but idk where i read it but it should be from the middle of the tire to the middle of the other tire. Maybe a tad longer, but not much.

2000mc 03-02-2014 10:19 AM

Results look similar to a test I did before. Your mpg slowly creeps up throughout testing, I found that my car takes around half an hour of driving before the mileage really levels off, long after just the thermostat has been open.
I'm guessing tire, engine oil, trans temps all come into play. I've tried to do testing at the end of other trips to try to minimize this.

sarguy01 03-02-2014 10:44 AM

Okay, hopefully I'll get some time today to tweak the dam.

I am going to trim the edging so it's in the middle of the tire. I also need to take an inch off the bottom since it scrapes going up and down the driveway. I do have speed bumps on my route and don't want this thing ripping off.

Before testing last night, I did have the car warm. I drove it all day and then made sure the engine was up to operating temp before testing. I know the tires will keep heating up as well as the trans fluid, so that might be part of the reason why.

I am going to find a different route to test. There aren't many flat roads, without traffic, with 55 mph speed limits around my house. I may hop on the interstate and do some testing later this week. The interstate going south is traffic free at night and I can do 55 mph (speed limit).

I am not giving up yet!

TexasCotton 03-02-2014 10:44 AM

When I did the front of my 04 Ford F150and increase the tire pressure. I got a boost in FE

sarguy01 03-02-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasCotton (Post 413348)
When I did the front of my 04 Ford F150and increase the tire pressure. I got a boost in FE

My tires are at 44 psi. They've been there since I got the tires.

What kind of increase did you see with the F150?

mikeyjd 03-02-2014 11:02 AM

I don't think you'll see as much benefit on a civic, as say, a pickup. Your car is already relatively low and cleaner underneath than the vehicles which report significant improvements in fuel economy.

I see the biggest potential for improvement in front side aero coming from a flush upper grill block.

Also note that higher speeds will be more revealing of aerodynamic benefits of lowering CD

sarguy01 03-02-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyjd (Post 413353)
I don't think you'll see as much benefit on a civic, as say, a pickup. Your car is already relatively low and cleaner underneath than the vehicles which report significant improvements in fuel economy.

I see the biggest potential for improvement in front side aero coming from a flush upper grill block.

Also note that higher speeds will be more revealing of aerodynamic benefits of lowering CD

Yes, the grill block is coming. Since I want to make it look nice, I need to find some extra time to make it. I don't want a hacked together one. Though, I may do some painter's tape testing before I even take the time to make the grill block.

Maybe I will test the air dam at 60-65 mph instead of 50.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:15 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com