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EcoboosterQ 06-02-2013 04:36 PM

2013 Ford F150 Ecoboost
 
Ok... I know it's not a tiny mpg efficient car, but I need a truck and the last one did a BEST MPG of 14 (ugh !).

So now I am going to see if I can get this new truck up over 25 mpg regularly (I have had it to 26 mpg on the highway, but want to get it over 25 mpg averaged).

Wish me luck !!!

:turtle:

(for those extreme hypermilers amongst you... look away now....)






http://coho911.smugmug.com/Cars/Truc..._7369105-M.jpg

PressEnter[] 06-02-2013 04:57 PM

Good luck! There are some guys around here getting impressive numbers with trucks.

UltArc 06-02-2013 11:09 PM

Subscribed.

UltArc 06-02-2013 11:12 PM

Two questions:

One, did you do some serious weight shedding?

Two, how are you getting such poor mileage with a lite weight vehicle?
or
Two, is it difficult to achieve the EPA numbers or is there another factor?

EcoboosterQ 06-03-2013 12:52 PM

1) I have not shed any weight - I do run it empty (not adding toolboxes or jack-alls, bed is empty, etc., etc.)

2) The mileage is below EPA as a) I live at 3500 feet altitude (so I will have to work harder), b) the truck is BRAND new & from all the reading I have done other owners report at about 5000-8000 kms on the engine it suddenly increases a few mpg's when the engine is fully broken in and you get the first oil chane - so until then I am doing what I can and using this time as a baseline to learn better driving habits :)

3) Yes, the EPA IS hard to reach on these trucks people say as the EPA is derived off an engine being run on a Dyno - not real world driving.

I am not trying to turn this truck into a an ultralight electric boxfish wannabe and make it drive 1000 miles on 2 gallons of fuel, I believe there is a place in fuel economy for everyday people with common changes and great habits to get better gas mileage. The adaptive transmission has already learned my smoother driving habits & has made adjustments.

My intentions are to take a regular vehicle, make some affordable & sensible everyday changes, focus HUGE on driving habits, maybe try some things like grill blocks, tonneaus etc. & share the data/results I get with other people who may be in the same situation as me.

I will have this truck over EPA ! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltArc (Post 374374)
Two questions:

One, did you do some serious weight shedding?

Two, how are you getting such poor mileage with a lite weight vehicle?
or
Two, is it difficult to achieve the EPA numbers or is there another factor?


wdb 06-03-2013 01:57 PM

Well right off the bat, forget the tonneau. Everything I've seen here and elsewhere says they cost MPG's, not save. Something-something air swirl something-something.

EcoboosterQ 06-03-2013 02:27 PM

Tonneaus are dependant on truck cab design & bed length.

I am always up to the new information & will adjust my perspective accordingly, but all I have read and researched so far leans in favor of a tonneau to decrease the 'high pressure' volume in the bed = less secondary turbulance = less air resistance.

I have one advantage already - I bought a 5'7" bed (the short bed) which along with my supercrew cab actual offers the BEST aerodynamic signature for a fullsized truck with an open bed. Ford designed the rear of the cab to pull air down into/over the bed of the truck, but in a smart move - they actually have it 'aimed' to flow over the bed and flow over the top of the tailgate. as soon as you go to the 6.5' bed, it does start to JUST catch the back end of some of that overcab airflow - the mid length & long truck beds always benefit from any form of bed cover. Even only covering the rear 1/2 of the bed to aid with rearward airflow. :)

F150 Aerodynamics;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0RVd-nbDXI

Truck Tailgate Up/Down research;
Ecomodder thread :) http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...down-3904.html
Pickup Truck Tailgate Up Or Down Aerodynamics Tested | New Industry Products | Trucking Times Magazine Trucking Times
Driving With Tailgate Up Is Fuel Efficient : Discovery Channel

Canopy test;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYO21Frl9Vc

If anyone has any new information - feel free to share it as I am trying to both help myself and anyone else who's interested. So far I think my research about which truck to buy and adjusting my driving habits is just a start :) .

UltArc 06-03-2013 06:12 PM

I was jokingly trying to hint at the weight posted for the truck on its page.

I look forward to following your developments!

EcoboosterQ 06-03-2013 07:14 PM

Around/Across town today, finally 22.3mpg at home but does well on the road in traffic.

http://coho911.smugmug.com/Cars/Truc..._8097438-L.jpg

For the 'its just a picture- could be anything' doubters, here is a video as I was almost home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2GkHoVtIoc

This truck does well for a new, un-broken in Fullsized 4x4 with a towing -3.73:1- rear differential in it & 35 gallons of fuel in its belly.

Frank Lee 06-03-2013 07:50 PM

That beast ain't gonna sip but let's see what you can do with it.

War_Wagon 06-03-2013 11:52 PM

If you see a new F150 in your rearview mirror and want to know if it's an Ecoboost, look at the front license plate. If it's in the center of the bumper, it's not. If it's to the left, then it is. Allows more airflow to the intercooler. It's sad that I look at enough trucks that I know that lol. I like those trucks, they are peppy. Looking forwards to seeing what kind of FE you can get out of it.

slowmover 06-04-2013 12:12 PM

A half tonneau is said to equalize the air pressure ahead and behind the tailgate.

Get you a CAT Scale reading, the adjusted empty weight (which is driver, full fuel and permanent supplies and tools aboard). And use CapriRacers instructions/advice on how to dial in tire pressure -- inside vehicle manufacturer numbers -- by monitoring pressure rise from cold after 1.5-hours of stready=state driving (highway). Best tire life, braking, etc, will be with that ideal number (and, obviously, more scale readings and TP adjustments to know how in the future to adjust them for differing loads).

As it is a pickup I woudn't wait, but upgrade shocks ASAP. KONI or BILSTEIN. Same for changing to polyurethane anti-roll bar bushings. If there is no rear bar (and you want to add one) the front should probably be up-sized by percentage. Be careful as trucks are notorious for the RR axle getting loose.

Do you plan to be towing? Is that the reason for a pickup? What is the trailer spec in that case?

Will you be working off a fuel log and previous calendar year fuel budget? That is, to make both the comparison in mpg truck-to-truck AND in reduction of miles driven while accomplishing the same work? This was the first step I made in taking my truck to 23-mpg from the previous 18-mpg in-town average over a distance of 1,100-miles. I've since backslid to 19, but the total miles is reduced.

The mileage-driven reduciton (cold start, etc) is where the money is on a pickemup. Do the same normal errand runs . . but do them in fewer miles/trips.

.

EcoboosterQ 06-04-2013 10:38 PM

Thought I would share these speed : MPG specs from CleanMPG's test ...

Quote:

CleanMPG drove a two-wheel drive model from California to Georgia with a conservative 3.15 rear axle for maximum fuel economy. That doesn't mean they didn't use the truck like it was meant to be used. There were five adults in the pickup for most of the journey plus a cargo box full of camping gear and supplies that pushed the F-150's gross vehicle weight to 7,120 pounds -- 20 pounds over its 7,100-pound GVWR.

Here's a look at CleanMPG's observed Interstate highway steady state fuel economy at different speeds:

70-mph - 22.3 mpg (6th gear with transmission's torque converter locked)
60-mph - 25.5 mpg (6th gear with transmission's torque converter locked)
50-mph - 31.6 mpg (6th gear with transmission's torque converter locked)
45-mph - 33.9 mpg (6th gear with transmission's torque converter locked)
40-mph - 32.6 mpg (6th gear with transmission's torque converter locked)

Another interesting fact -- CleanMPG squeezed 36 gallons of gasoline into the F-150's 26 gallon factory fuel system by following a slow fill approach that utilized all of the gas vapor space in the tank and fuel lines. This required up to an hour to trickle fuel into the truck.


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