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gone-ot 12-12-2015 05:11 PM

2016 Prius smoke-test
 
Thoughts?

http://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cars...15742d2a64.jpg

...dimensions:

http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content...h-668x3411.jpg

Cd 12-12-2015 05:49 PM

My thoughts : USELESS.

Looks like every other smoke test. Let's see some tufts to see what the air is doing.

Cd 12-12-2015 05:52 PM

http://0.tqn.com/d/trucks/1/S/C/F/1/...ind_tunnel.jpg
http://www.electric-bikes.com/better...kgroundhtc.jpg

Looking at these two images, one might guess that the truck has a more streamlined design.
After all, just look at the way that the smoke stream hugs the lines of the truck, while it has a wide void around the teardrop.

Smoke seems useless to me

ksa8907 12-12-2015 07:42 PM

First off, the new prius is ugly!

I find it interesting that the increased the hood to windshield angle. Though im glad to see they lowered it overall.

freebeard 12-12-2015 07:48 PM

I think the still picture of the smoke trail is the least interesting. Look at that articulated, airfoiled arm holding the nozzle!

The dimensions are interesting, too bad it doesn't have lift/downforce figures as well. The cowl height, H-point and spoiler height are all down 50-60cm and the overall length is up by 60cm. Is this possible because Prius split into three models?

cyclopathic 12-13-2015 06:44 AM

I was hoping to see if that tail fin monstrosity has any aerodynamic meaning...

Cd 12-13-2015 08:00 AM

http://momentcar.com/images/geo-storm-1991-3.jpg
http://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cars...15742d2a64.jpg

Anyone else see a resemblance ?

ByDesign 12-13-2015 09:57 AM

Love that they (Whomever "they" are) will release photos like this. Probably in part for propaganda, but cool nonetheless.

The smoke tells a story, even in stills. In the Prius photo, the light is sufficient for a high shutter speed. The Ford, probably a longer shutter because you don't see the details in the turbulent areas behind. (And the airfoil photo looks almost like an extend exposure because there is no indication of motion or turbulence -- which may be partly true just because of what we know if it's shape.) Going back to the Ford, the dispersion aft the cab is the real clue to turbulence there. Don't see that nearly as much in the Prius photo.

The big thing missing is the air speed in these photos. It may be that speed is higher for the Ford so it looks like a longer exposure just because the particles travel farther during the shot. The Prius may be at a much lower speed so turbulence is not as much a factor. Hard to tell, of course.

Finally, the discharge point with the Prius is much higher (compared to the hood) than the Ford. The closer to interaction with the boundary layer, the more turbulence is likely to appear.

What is interesting, at least to me, is the "wedge" below the smoke on the Prius from the hood, following up the windscreen and over the roof. Compare to the Ford, and the "wedge" disappears at the intersection of hood and windscreen. Part of that is a visual effect because of the introductory point, but part is geometry indicating greater pressure differentials through that area. I personally think they did a better job on early versions of the Prius, and this geometry change may be more for consumer acceptance (and easier cleaning of the windscreen on the inside -- and ice on the outside) than for aerodynamics.

Final thought -- why, if the goal is better fuel econ, do they not use full wheel covers? I'm continually baffled at why "they" would release photos like this apparently showing off the aerodynamics, yet neglect some of the easy fundamentals that could be integrated into a design (not just wheels) without really effecting the look. #OpportunitiesLost

California98Civic 12-13-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksa8907 (Post 501873)
First off, the new prius is ugly!

I find it interesting that the increased the hood to windshield angle. Though im glad to see they lowered it overall.

I prefer the new one, actually. Looks to me as if they optimized changes meant to make it more marketable to people who want an "aggressive" look. The result is pretty interesting. I like the aft angles and trim most. Side view is great.

ksa8907 12-13-2015 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by California98Civic (Post 501902)
I prefer the new one, actually. Looks to me as if they optimized changes meant to make it more marketable to people who want an "aggressive" look. The result is pretty interesting. I like the aft angles and trim most. Side view is great.

Im glad you brought up the word aggressive. Toyota marketing is a laughing point for me. I always hear their commercials on the radio going to work in the morning and they,"Jan", always point out that theor line has aggressive front grilles. Aggressive look... thats cute.


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