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94 Integra build thread
Its been a LONG time since my last post, but I've been lurking around from time to time.
This is a 5 speed Integra with 170k miles that was in the family, and after the owner passed away it found its way into my hands. She actualy lurked on ecomoder from time to time; so I see it only fitting to make a thread for the car! lol https://image.ibb.co/fb4MZk/20170514_164331_LI.jpg Ya, the first day it left me stranded.... after a new batery we were ready to go again! https://image.ibb.co/foeoEk/20170514_164925.jpg with less than seller mileage returns (28 mpg) i did a tune up. (oil change, timing belt, spark plugs, cap, and rotor) I am still not happy with the Economy, but its improving. Being that this car will be my storm chasing car for next season anything i can do to help would be nice. https://image.ibb.co/capMZk/20170608_163344.jpg The laptop mount is held on via industrial Velcro so it comes off easily. A big problem with storm chasing in a honda (or acura) is how low the oil pan sits. That is not good for dirt roads with large rocks! so a bellypan/Skid plate was not optional for me. The last thing I would ever want to do is ruin this car by hacking it up. By removing the factory tow hooks it gave me a VERY sturdy location for some skid plate mount points. https://image.ibb.co/eNQOfQ/20170706_145100.jpg https://image.ibb.co/gpvBZk/20170720_134912.jpg https://image.ibb.co/mHwkuk/20170720_142953.jpg I didn't want to increase the frontal area of the car, but the whole point of a skid plate is to make it to where it will take any potential impact, not the chassis. i have less than a half inch of clearance between the oil pan and the skid plate. https://image.ibb.co/ivO9LQ/20170720_134857.jpg https://image.ibb.co/jW8WZk/20170720_134901.jpg The bellypan is ~ 1/8" (3.175mm) aluminum and will hopefully be sturdy enough. The brackets are 2"x3"x0.3125" angle aluminum. https://image.ibb.co/jj95uk/20170720_145055.jpg https://image.ibb.co/ic1JEk/20170720_145105.jpg https://preview.ibb.co/eorJEk/20170720_145110.jpg https://image.ibb.co/bAWULQ/20170720_145126.jpg https://preview.ibb.co/d5oyEk/20170720_145142.jpg If i get a chance to bend some new sheet metal for it, I will make it fit the front bumper a little tighter. https://image.ibb.co/hrtn75/20170720_145202.jpg The last thing to do is add brackets to the rear, like so. https://image.ibb.co/joApLQ/fu2x2.jpg |
Nice work!
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Storm chasing, sounds like a dream.
Subscribed! Very clean teggy. I had a B18 in my Del Sol, and it was a fun little motor. I'd love to see where this goes. |
Thanks for the support guys, Will be taking it for a 415 mile drive today and just removed the power steering belt so testing wont be a perfect comparison from without the bellypan.
I need another MPGuino from Meelis. |
This is a re-post from a thread that I just made but I thought it belonged in here as well.
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It is Important to note that I will either be installing the Catalytic converters from a 1st gen insight (made to handel higher NOX output) or be doing water injection in conjunction with a NOX sensor from a ford diesel to try and keep emissions in check.
I have both setting around. The cats came off my insight and only have ~5,000 Miles on them. The NOX sensor will have to be monitored via a Arduino. I need the voltage range outputs, and I cant find the info I need for it.... A word of caution, go too crazy, and It may throw a code with the rear O2 sensor. Easily solved by disabling it in the programming of the ECU later on. |
Good job on the skid plate :thumbup:
You pose an interesting aerodynamic question; modification for stability in gusting crosswinds rather than speed or economy. One thought is the roof-top fences used on NASCAR cars to kill lift when they go sideways. |
You know, roof rails May not be a bad idea. Under normal driving conditions they shouldn't have a terrible impact Drag, however, that would definitely change with a strong Crosswind .
I've actually done a little chasing in my 1st gen Insight. 50MPH crosswords are definitely a handful.... Also, the car is just too slow to feel comfortable Under some of the conditions that we encounter . |
The other thing might be what air-baggers call 'laying frame'. You could even have ground anchors mounted in two opposite corners so you could drive onto some bare ground and sink 'em.
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Unless you run a Honda insite engine tune on the insite converter, it seems useless for reducing NOx.
The converter gets loaded up with NOx and the ecu runs the engine rich every so often to regen the anti-NOx catalyst. With out that regen the converter loads up with NOx and then the NOx blows straight through. I would just use a normal converter. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...urn-35095.html |
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If it is THAT windy, I may have other problems such as lethal debris. We do a pretty good job of being able to stay out of Immediate danger https://www.instagram.com/txstormhunter/ If you want to see a few of my photos. Quote:
I may wind up just keep the stock Cat. |
I have had idea floating around for a while.
Im not sure if there has been a thread on it.... The thought is to have an arduino as the output to simulate an oxygen sensor using a few input parameters. (rpm via the injector and TPS via the factory sensor 0-5v) My wideband has a linar voltage output of 0-5v for a 7.4-22.1 AFR value. V=(50/147x)- 370/147) x being AFR or .5-1.5λ or V=5λ-5/2 lambda is much easier lol My thinking is if the rpm is below 1200 or above 3500 lean burn is not really needed so have the o2 sensor output equal to the factory switching point of 14.7:1 In regards to the throttle position If <5% run at the normal afr. If 5-11% run the switching-point at 17.5:1 afr If12-20% run the switching-point at 16.5 afr if 21-30% run the switching-point at 15.5 afr If>30% run the switching-point at the normal 14.7 to help avoid detonation (possibly wright a formula to make it more linear as apposes to having 3 steps) Obviously these ranges will need to be adjusted with further testing. Just an idea I'm throwing out there. I just ordered my Mega 2560 and should be in pretty soon. If anyone has any ideas/suggestions feel free to comment. |
Nice thread. Love the mods. Subscribed.
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"Quick" update time. with LOTS of hopefully helpful links
The ecu is chipped, and I have a starting tune. For how to chip yourown OBD1 honda ecu see hamotorsprots or just do a goolge search.... super easy to find. https://preview.ibb.co/jnwmAQ/20170730_201345.jpg I am using a P06 ecu from a 94 civic with a D15B7 and an Auto transmission. So, yes tou can EASILY use an auto ecu on a manual car. all you have to do is remove 2 resistors (RP17 and RP18), and replace one of them with a jumper wire. (RP18) http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...a/IMG_0317.jpg For a detailed DIY/HOW-TO see HERE https://preview.ibb.co/hGZTPk/20170730_201355.jpg I still need the TTL to USB conversion cable to Datalog. I should be able to pick it up tomorrow. Alternatively you could make your own from an old NOKIA 3200 (DKU-5) data cord. See here **no pictures** or Here not quite as detailed And after ALL of that This will get you loging I did a few slight changes to the stock p75 rom to help with my slight lean burn set up. from 1250-3500 rpm I added 2degrees of timing while under light load (see red box) I also decreaced the low-mid rpm ople loop crossover threshold to help prevent going into higher engine loads while lean and causing detonation. The top is the altered timing map and TPS/RPM Closed-open loop crossover and the bottom are the stock settings. https://preview.ibb.co/e5NF4k/Untitled.png I also did a few fueling adjustments to have a smoother transition from 16.2:1 under light load cruising to 13.4:1 under hard acceleration. right at the transition to open loop it runs right at 14.5 and richens up when accelerating/pulling a hill. Because this car is basically all stock only very small changes were needed to a few sections of the fuel map. When I am able to actually log this stuff, it will only get better/easier, with a lot less guesstimation . Lastly, a good freind surprised me with something he found at a garage sale saying, Quote:
https://preview.ibb.co/egb8Pk/20170730_213632.jpg An oldschool "Econo-Meter" vacuum gauge, I have a new Autometer vacume/boost gauge, but I think this is much cooler! :cool: https://preview.ibb.co/fGMWc5/20170730_213638.jpg It may find its way into the car sometime soon! |
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You'll need a DAC or the ghetto-DAC (PWM+Resistor+DAC) to get a sine-wave off and arduino if I understand correctly. I'm really interested in having the same thing. As now I want to achieve something similar as well. I know that wideband-o2 sensor -> narrowband-o2-sensors convertors can be bought off-the-shelf for hundreds of dollars but where's the fun in that. Nice work. |
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My wideband controler/gauge/sensor cost 219$ It is expensive. But not a whole lot more than just an 02 sensor . |
Ok so my MPGuino is on its way from Meelis11. When it comes in I will do some A-B-C maybe ?D? testing.
There is a 26 mile loop around Lubbock with slight elevation change. FindHills.com https://preview.ibb.co/m5mtGa/loop.jpg I will be setting the cruise at 60 mph and testing some of my changes. Testing Parameters: A: "All Stock" Factory ECU with Wide-band switching at 14.7 B: Stock ecu but wide-band switching at 16.2 C: My tuned ECU, with advanced timing from (See post number 14 and wideband switching at 16.2 Other test I am considering. D/E: adding my power steering/AC load to the engine. F/G Cruise at 65/70 All testing will be done at night to avoid traffic, All test will be done consecutively, on the same tank of gas, after the car and tires warm to operating temperature. To help Isolate variables. I may also find a different (shorter) road to decrease testing time (although, this may make the testing less accurate). I would like the testing rought to have zero stops, changes in speed as to help remove human error from the equasion. another possible option is FindHills.com at 16 miles. If only I had access to a large oval track/ airfield. If anyone has any sujestions/reccomndations for testing, or even something you would like me to test, be sure to let me know! |
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Well, great work so far. Have you ever considered GPS assisted Ecomodding? This has been on my mind for a little while. What I mean by this is triangulation of GPS coordinates to activate certain logic. So for example, when going on a known downhill incline, turn off the injectors and shutdown automatically. Then at the start of the incline, have the computer start up again at the correct location. I have some of the code to do this for Arduino, but I'm trying to port it over to Raspberry-Pi because there's more power to do more things because of the bigger memory. Here is the link to the original project : http://nootropicdesign.com/projectla...05/speed-trap/ |
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http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ogic-2031.html http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ion-34170.html http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...trol-3682.html I think you may be backwards on the Quote:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post10470 GPS assisted cruse has the potential to be very useful, but is probably a good bit beyond my capabilities. |
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