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NedTheHead 05-19-2013 10:48 PM

Accurate instrumentation possible on a diesel?
 
In another thread, rmay635703 said:

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Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 372144)
There is no fuel economy instrumentation available for diesels, unless you use the old manual thing from the 80s.

The scanguage will calculate FE on a diesel once calibrated so long as you drive one speed with one throttle position, deviate a little bit and the thing is WAY off.

I'd like to ask diesel vehicle owners what kind of instrumentation they're using, given this. My old 2007 Jetta currently has an UltraGauge and I'm a big fan. It would be a shame if I couldn't use it on my new 1999 F250.

AndrzejM 05-20-2013 03:47 AM

I'm using MPGuino on Berta, but it has FE signal comming out of ECU, so it was easy to make it work.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 05-20-2013 05:03 AM

Electronics made the things easier regarding fuel-efficiency instrumentation in Diesels, but with an old-school one it's still a challenge...

AndrzejM 05-20-2013 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 372308)
Electronics made the things easier regarding fuel-efficiency instrumentation in Diesels, but with an old-school one it's still a challenge...

True. Flow meters are expensive, and those cheap ones sometimes are just not good enough to measure FE accurately.

gone-ot 05-20-2013 10:04 AM

The 2014 Cruze Diesel has the same MPG display as its gasoline counterpart...and it just counts the number (and thus volume) of injection squirts (the diesel uses more than one) to estimate diesel consumption.

NedTheHead 05-20-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 372308)
Electronics made the things easier regarding fuel-efficiency instrumentation in Diesels, but with an old-school one it's still a challenge...

1999 isn't that old, is it? The truck does have an OBDII port.

NedTheHead 05-21-2013 08:38 PM

The promotional material for the ScanGauge II indicates that it supports diesels. Is that just wrong? Or is there something about my truck that's unsupported. Still confused here...

NachtRitter 05-22-2013 01:22 AM

I have a ScanGauge II on my 2000 Jetta TDI and it does a reasonably good job of estimating the fuel consumption. Not perfect, but good enough to know how well I did on a commute or an errand. I normally run B20, and when I change to pure dino-diesel, the SG will get confused and will be off by a several MPGs. You can check out my fuel log; I've started to include the SG results with each fillup.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 05-22-2013 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NedTheHead (Post 372554)
The promotional material for the ScanGauge II indicates that it supports diesels. Is that just wrong? Or is there something about my truck that's unsupported. Still confused here...

If it's compliant to OBD-2 your truck might be supported.

oldbeaver 06-06-2013 02:28 PM

In a Mercedes OM 603 engine, there is a EDS control unit that is supposed to control the amount of diesel to be inyected by injection pump.

I have EDS scheme diagram. One should take advantage of it and construct a math model that calculates diesel fuel used, and together with speed, calculate mileage.


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