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homeworkhome53 06-03-2008 10:40 PM

Aero observation (kayak out the hatchback)
 
Last night I threw my kayak in my hatchback Aveo to do a little fishing when I got off this morning in a lake at work. The kayak will not completely fit in the car, about 2 feet stick out the back and the hatch is bungeed down and about half way open giving a longer sloping profile. There is a flat 12 mile stretch where I typically get 44-45 mpg on the scangauge. Last night with the kayak tail and the hatch sticking out into the slip stream it read 48-49 with an occational 50. I've got to check this out further. Maybe I have inadvertently created a boattail mod. It would be shame if I had to carry the kayak everyday to improve mpg, the fish dinner would be an added bounus. Oh, and I got 10 nice bluegill and 14" crappie and had a bald eagle buzz me. I must have invaded his fishing hole.

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Lazarus 06-03-2008 10:47 PM

Could the wind be helping you out last night? If not That would be an easy mod. :turtle:

ebacherville 06-03-2008 11:57 PM

would this be called a kayak tail then... :)

MetroMPG 06-04-2008 12:45 PM

"kayak tail" - too funny.

I think it's entirely possible that the angle of the hatch may have helped.

I've wondered this about my car as well, but the design of my hatch is such that opening it at all increases frontal area because of the hinge location and the design of the top of the hatch.

How about a photo?

aerohead 06-04-2008 04:10 PM

Kamm-Hatch?
 
Like Darin was saying,if the top didn't create a snag,and the slope of the hatch,say,didn't exceed around 15-degrees,it's not impossible that you created kind of a fastback.And with the gentle angle you would not have induced vortices at the sides.The space between the body and hatch/kayak would be the equivalent of the captured "phantom-boat-tail" Morelli,Kamm,and Korff,etc. elude to.Way fun! If I had a wider/shorter boat to loan you,I'd say,take it on your next outing and see what that would do.Great story,thanks.

homeworkhome53 06-04-2008 07:39 PM

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Here are some photos. I took it fishing again today and had high mpg on the scangauge. I going to keep it in the car till the end of the tank and see if there is a noted improvement. The wind was not a factor either time.

yakfishingfool 06-04-2008 08:50 PM

My yaks go on the roof, big drag mod. Scott

MetroMPG 06-05-2008 08:39 AM

It does look like it increases frontal area when open, but maybe the angles aft that are good enough to compensate for the increase.

SuperTrooper 06-05-2008 01:46 PM

I think the only thing the kayak is doing to help is prop the hatch open. I'd experiment with a piece of wood propping the hatch open the same angle to see if the results are the same. Then make adjustments to the angle to find the optimum. After that I'd look to fill the gap with coroplast. VOILA! Instant boattail!

MetroMPG 07-03-2008 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homeworkhome53 (Post 31413)
I going to keep it in the car till the end of the tank and see if there is a noted improvement.

Any news on that front?


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