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Aerodynamic Streamlining Template: Part-C
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Aerodynamic Streamlining Template: Part-A
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The above is the intro the the templates which were posted separately by aerohead. Thanks for the charts and template. Good timing for me because I'm going to start my kamm-back soon. I have several neophyte questions that have not been answered so far (that I could find). 1. Does the optimal fineness ratio change with speed? I am hoping that if I make mine lower, that is to make the slope steeper, but I stay below say 55mph, will the flow stay attached? My aim is to reduce the size of the tail, and I could live with the slower speeds to get the wake and tail as small as possible. I don't think the Egg will ever go "super-critical". Sounds like you would need a flux capacitor for that. 2. Does the kamm-back or boattail have to be closed off to get the best result? How much difference is there between a closed off and an open ended tail? |
Keep in mind, the right chart that shows the .25 t/c being optimal is at a reynolds number of 400,000, much much lower than a car traveling at 55mph.
Orangboy, for your vehicle, you want to experiment with shapes at RE of around 11,200,000, considering your vehicle is 15 feet long stock, and i'd expect atleast 5 feet to be added for a boat tail RE = 9360 * SPEED(in mph)*DIMENSION(in feet) Using a program called DesignFoil, i have found that the best shape for a vehicle traveling 60mph has the location of minumum pressure located 70% the length of the cord(from front to back). The shape is NACA 67-025. http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...Naca67-025.png However, this shape has a center of pressure that is out in front of the shape 8% of the chord length. What this means is its very susceptible to cross winds, and will get blown around. When you move the max width forward a bit, the cd increase slightly, but the center of pressure moves backward drastically, meaning its better in crosswind. For example, going from NACA 67-025 to NACA 66-025 (70% to 60%), the COP is moved back to 30% of the length (IE, its now inside of the shape) |
I just thought of some other questions I have not seen answered elsewhere.
Regarding the point of stagnation and the underbelly. Does the air under the car have a lower or higher pressure? I think it's a low pressure area but it's not obvious to me. Is it better to have a sharply defined, upward sloping air dam parallel to the lowest points on the car or a bumper curved under the car from the stagnation point (like in the template?) the trailing edge of which terminates parallel to the lowest point under the car? Thanks. |
From everything i have read, it seems that the optimal design is to have no airflow underneath the car. The flip side is that this is not really practical in a road car because there needs to be some sort of ground clearance for speed bumps, parking lot entrances (some are not level with road), etc. So the best answer i can give is that the least amount of airflow under the car is ideal.
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I would like to hear what aerohead thinks about what i have talked about so far.
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I think you are right regarding the least airflow under a body is best but at some point assuming the same ground clearance are you not increasing frontal area if you block off all under flow. It could be this is an advantage anyhow. If the larger frontal area is offset by reduced drag. I have not heard this spelled out yet. Thoughts?
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Well, there has been some discussion about totally covering the front to eliminate all the air going under the car, even if the airdam is lower than the underbody. Its a common practice at the salt flats and in nascar.
http://www.carolinaautomasters.com/I...l/PICT0079.JPG http://www.saltflats.com/Graphics/JP...%203%20033.jpg |
B*tchin' Camaro!
So what you need is: 1) a stiff rubber lip at the front for aero 2) a stiff upper lip to deal with the guff from the unwashed masses. 3) a nascar decal. Got it. |
Thanks for the source postings. The bible I've been going by is "Theory of Wing Sections" by Abbott and Von Doenhoff, which takes up the history from just after that first chart. Being concerned with wings, it makes sense for them to not go beyond 21% thick, as they want to leave something in hand for some angle of attack. That had persuaded me to go to 25% on a strut myself.
The NACA tests progressed to "laminar flow shapes" of which the 67-series is the most extreme. These are almost lab curiosities, first achieved in production on the P-51, using bondo over the flush rivets. No such shape can tolerate a blemish, let alone a wheel opening, without tripping the boundary layer into turbulence in a wake spreading 15 deg to each side. The "standard roughness" in these tests, which double the drag, consists of .011" grit, covering 5-10% of the area, just within 8% of the length from the leading edge. (like small bug strikes) Here are a few selected data points from my book: The lowest cd shown was for a shape that didn't make a stable wing, so there may be much room for exploration. That wing is the 0010-35, in the old system, 10% thick. At Re from 3 to 9 million, the cd is .003 near-polished, and .009 "rough." The 2424 shape is similar to the 2412 It gets a cd of .008 smooth and .013 rough, at 24% thickness, while the 12% thick shape gets .0065 smooth and .010 rough. Moving on to the later laminar shapes, which rely on perfect conditions to maintain a laminar boundary layer back as far as the second term in the identifier, usually the widest part of the shape. A 63-006 shape is a 6-series, (laminar) with 30% laminar flow, no camber for lift, and 6% thick. - ie: 100" long, 6" thick. The 67-025 is 70% laminar, no camber, 25% thick. The 66 and 67s are slipprier than the 63 and 64s, but who can wait for 70% of the way back for the first seam, wheel opening, or other feature? Shape: cd around 6 mil Re. cd with standard roughness 63-006 .0043 .0087 63-021 .0055 .011 64-009 .0043 .0087 64-015 .0047 .0097 64-021 .0054 .018 66-006 .0032 .0085 66-021 .0041 .013 These all show a clear preference for the slender shape, despite the extra surface drag. The text helps illustrate the trends with increasing speed, and gives examples that improve, such as the 65-418, with less separation as you go faster. This is not uncommon, but the devil is in the details, and these shapes are only a rough indication about designing practical cars. Re: underflow - it is good if done right, but blocking it off is a cheap fix that gives downforce, which is good for road racing, not cruising. Underflow is not really hard to visualize; it is like a duct, but with the boundary layer on the flat side moving and helping stabilize things. After F1 banned the vacuum cleaner cars, they did quite well with underbody venturi systems. |
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