AirFlow StarShip Initial Reveal
Okay, so I haven't exactly completed the real truck yet, but that will happen soon. In the interim, here are a couple of articles and images of a scale model of the new truck that I am building.
http://rotella.shell.com/starship/_j...r-nologos.jpeg http://www.overdriveonline.com/wp-co...11-768x432.jpg http://www.ccjdigital.com/wp-content...23-768x432.jpg Shell Rotella unveils futuristic tractor-trailer concept Shell Rotella's Starship concept rig could see cross-country efficiency run in early 2018 | Overdrive - Owner Operators Trucking Magazine How did I do??? |
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Just kidding. :thumbup: Looking good, make it happen! Eager to see these things on the roads, replacing the other trucks out there. |
How is the filler between the can and the trailer going to work? Inflatible? Sliding plates somehow? Will it be possible to use it with a standard trailer with all aero in place?
So many questions... |
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Yes, it would work with a standard trailer as the device is cab-mounted. But a standard trailer with the StarShip tractor would just be a waste of fuel. . |
Different and they weren't nearly as good, but still reminds of Penske's trucks from years ago.https://16thandgeorgetown.files.word...ske_racing.jpg
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My 1983 prototype is shown below. http://www.airflowtruck.com/wp-conte...7/05/HDT-2.jpg |
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What is this? A semi for ants? How can we be expected to transport goods efficiently if they can’t even fit inside the truck? I don’t wanna hear your excuses! The tractor has to be at least three times bigger than this!
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Battle of the Bulge (1965) "King Tiger"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4j4iq-hN_8 Very nice model, it proves that the Germans are still the world's finest toy makers.............:D Just kidding, I would love to see that on the road as soon as possible. :thumbup: |
Shepherd, do you ever have people say "You know that doesn't make a difference, right?"
I know people have told me that, but I have never done much ecomodding, although I would bet gas money that if I made a boat tail, people would tell me it did not work, and I could say "Hold on, this is my gas log, here is my performance in the Green Grand Prix, and here I am in a wind tunnel..." "Whatever. You know that doesn't work." Seriously, though, you have outdone yourself again! :) |
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Please be as verbose as you like about this. Like, do the tractor rear skirts hinge at the rear vertical edge and slide forward on the inside of a corner? Quote:
What does the tail look like? Any plasma actuators? |
It'll be interesting to see if this rig produces less turbulence behind it and kicks up less water spray than a conventional rig.
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The mechanical tractor to trailer gap sealer on the rear bulkhead of the cab is very similar to the boat-tail below. But it has one continuous top panel in 3 sections, as opposed to the 2 separate panels on the trailer, as there are no doors on the rear of the cab. I have an amazingly cool video of the gap sealer working in Augmented Reality (AR) that I cannot share yet, unfortunately. When we tweak the AR some more for accuracy, I'll be hopefully able to post it here. We have been talking with the plasma folks for a couple of years now, but it's not ready for prime time yet. The trailer boat-tail is an active aerodynamic, 4 panel WABCO unit that they custom built for us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPRizDvVTvo It is stock except we had them extend the side panels downward to the top edge of the horizontal impact protection bar (bumper) at the rear of the trailer. So we basically have a laminar flow that is not interrupted from the rear trailer skirts to the boat-tail, unlike almost everyone else. They are pneumatically operated and currently open at 40 mph and stow at 10 mph, keyed off of the WABCO stability control and ABS computer on the trailer. We may tweak those mph settings. As you can see from the images below, Strick built this trailer for me without any light cut-outs in the rear stainless steel door frame. We have 24" wide, 1" tall DOT approved LED taillights, mounted inside of that rear impact protection bar. When the boat-tail is stowed or deployed, a vehicle behind the trailer can still see the taillights and that conspicuity tape. https://vgy.me/lxiYqd.jpg The top panels are in the stowed position while we install the full-length side panels. https://vgy.me/rSNouM.jpg |
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Thanks. My imagination will have to substitute for the Photobucket place holders.
Tractor wheelbase is essentially equal to a conventional cab? When are you going to update that avatar pic? |
Now you need to apply your tech to diesel motor homes
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Copy that on the wheelbase. Soon. |
StarShip
Cover the highways with 'em Bob!
It's disruptive technology and I like it! 'hope the marketplace more than rewards you for your effort.:thumbup: |
Massive! Fantastic work, both on the old and new truck!
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Thanks for the kind words. Here's a couple more rendered images from our Augmented Reality program. https://vgy.me/dyKZ4n.jpeg |
It looks awwsome. Sorry for probably stupid question ( my closest experience with trucking is from playing few times 18 wheels of steel PC game, so negligible). I was living under impression that most of the owners-operators owns just a rig and tows whatever their contractor needs to haul.
Your setup seems to give best results with tractor+trailer combo. So how is it? Do truckers usually own both tractor and trailer or not? What performance do you expect with standard trailer? Have you tested tractor alone? Do you plan something for flatbeds, too? Inflatable boat-tail? |
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Many owner operators in the U.S. lease to a large carrier, operate under the carriers authority, and use the carriers trailer. Many other owner operators lease to a large carrier and use their own trailer. And a lot of owner operators have their own operating authority and own all of the equipment. This tractor will never be hooked up to standard trailer. We are striving for the best Class 8 truck fuel efficiency in the world, and a standard trailer would only detract from that. We have not tested anything yet. We are currently wrapping up the build. Flatbed versions, or an inflatable boat-tail, are not in the cards. |
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Thanks for the answers.
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Best regards rob |
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Now, if you could do something about the frontal area.... :)
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Wish I had more pull at the Arizona Trucking Association for you. But alas, I am the photographer who works with them once a year for a 3 day conference. So my influence is very low. I would love for you to be able to get your truck (when it's completed) in front of the companies out here...especially Swift and Knight.
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Hot damn! |
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All that work on the front and side skirts. I wonder what they did on the back?
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What kind of mileage improvement do you expect from a conventional setup? I have no idea what these things can get on a long haul.
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Make the back of the cab half-a-ball shaped, & the matching socket curvature at the front of the trailer. Or I guess you could make it the other way as well |
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Why they stopped production is the guy building them got cancer. He survived that but didn't restart production. Last I heard, he was wanting to sell all the tooling, parts on hand plus one complete Navette. The design would of course need to be adapted to a new chassis. Wouldn't need a single thing changed on the exterior to look like it's from 2020. ;) 'Course something current would have to be adapted for the headlights. navette [Tin Can Tourists Wiki] 1996 Navette Custom Built - TOY HAULER |
Twenty-year-old tooling and fabrication? One could probably do better stating over.
The Vixen had a BMW turbo-diesel. |
The Vixen is older and not as slick as the Navette. The great granddaddy of aero RVs is the GMC. Unfortunately those still ended up with plenty of 'warts' poking out where General motors didn't use parts custom designed to be low drag.
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