America Was Wrong About Ethanol - Study Shows
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-yDKeya4SU

Switch grass for the win...



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I should watch his next video to see if ethanol is bad for my [Superbeetle's] engine.

The part about soil carbon could be extended to food crops. No-till Permaculture exists.

I had problems with hoses rotting with ethanol in mine. From what I understand it's mainly the rubber components that it kills, such as hoses and carburetor o-rings and fuel pump and vacuum advance diaphragms.

I was being rhetorical. I bought it from folk who'd brought it out of 14 years storage, and I've burned clear premium in it exclusively. It hasn't help the compression on #1, unfortunately.

Quoth DDG:
IIRC it was Suspicious 0bservers that said climate change is reducing the viability of corn and increasing viability of wheat.

You could smell the whiskey burnin' down Copperhead Road

Youtube wanted me to see this:

First Turbocharged Car: 1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire | Jay Leno's Garage

Imagine having to mix av-gas into your clear premium to keep your car on the road. And having to home-brew your own Turbo Rocket Fluid[tm]. :)

From what i recall Sunoco selector pumps went to 125 octane for the pricely sum of 50 cents a gallon considering that 80 octane was 14.9/10 and could be had for 11. 9/10 at gas wars.

That 125 might have been repurposed aviation fuel that didn't meet spec

Somehow I was unaware ethanol is 100 octane. Also found this claim interesting that blending it with gasoline increases the octane rating. Not sure what ratio is necessary to achieve that.

https://extension.psu.edu/fuel-ethan...in%20gasoline.

Expect there to be a lot less corn to ethanol with fertilizer shortages and high natural gas prices.

Gearheads across the nation rejoice at this news.

Prediction: nothing will change. Big Farma is too well, errr, represented.

Gasoline seems to be jumping up a few cents every day in my town.

Maybe I need to do something else with my lawn trimmings this summer... I wonder how many acres of grass I'd need to cut (push mower?!) to get a gallon of gasoline.

Depends.

If it's Panicum_virgatum then:

It went up 20 cents on Saturday, and another 13 cents again between then and this morning!

Even though cold starts wouldn't be so easy in a carburettor-fed air-cooled engine while running pure ethanol, it won't really harm the engine. I'd just be concerned about the fuel lines, since some earlier materials may not be so suitable to a high ethanol content, even though so many Beetles and other air-cooled Volkswagens run well with the high ethanol content of Brazilian gasoline, and once in a while I see people claiming an ethanol-powered air-cooled VW as being better than a gasoline-powered one.

If the bug has german cloth covered rubber and the original intake seals, that rubber isn't safe for the modified fuel. Right red colored silicone replacement seals and american fuel lines currently are. You'll need about 5 ft of fuel line as there is a lot of it needing replacement. I ignored the vent lines but they should be replaced also.

Kinda want to avoid the dreaded drivers side vent burn pattern.

Great Plains
 

If it isn't destroyed by hail or atmospheric rivers.

MTBE / Ethanol
 

Does anyone know if the case for 'oxygenated' gasoline was ever made or not?
This was the original premise for the gasoline additives. Something to do with carbon-monoxide, as is the current fear of 'electron-monoxide' ( just kidding ).

Probably wrong, but I thought that was the basis for alcohol added fuel, or at least what was on the fuel pumps stickers back in the '80s

Not sure if ethanol is enough to release oxygen and decrease carbon monoxide emissions, but that would most likely be the case for nitromethane.

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Difference Between Oxygenated and Non Oxygenated Gasoline

https://www.differencebetween.com/di...ated-gasoline/

What is Oxygenated Gasoline?


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Switchgrass produces about 1,900 liters (500 gal.) per acre.

Hemp can produce up to 6,000 liters (1,900 gal.) per acre.

Hemp also produces about 37 gals. of oil per. acre that can be used as fuel.

Not to mention other by products like animal feed stock, industrial fibers, chemicals and over 5,000 other uses that could be utilized from that one plant.

It grows in marginal soil. Regenerates poor soil back to productive soil.

Can be used in crop rotation to reduce herbicide and pesticide use.

Florida and California could harvest as much as 4 crops per year. Other states could harvest a minimal of two crops per season.

For the greenies.

Roots left in the ground sequester 10% of deadly CO2 🙄. Leaves that fall down that are not used sequester another 30% and add Nutrients back to the soil for a total of 40%.

Even the US government knows hemp is a winner compared to corn.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/pub...1ei_1_.pdf?v=0

If it weren’t for corn 🌽 subsidies. Corn would fail. By their own admission.

The reason we use corn is that it is listed as a commodity on the New York exchange.

It is manipulated as needed to empty the pockets of the masses and in turn line the pockets of a few.


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Hemp, this is the way.

Had hemp seeds been more often used as a staple food, the game would change.

So ethanol makes at least the same, if not more, 24% more co2 than just burning gasoline.
There you go, this is what happens when well intentioned stupid people are allowed to make decisions. You get renewable fuel, that's actually not renewable.

....so far.

Even the Brazilian sugarcane-based ethanol relies heavily on Diesel for the agricultural machinery and the logistics, to an extent the late Amaral Gurgel would claim ProÁlcool to be Diesel-powered whenever he had a chance to speak against ethanol.

thanks for sharing

Recently while talking about fuel quality issues with the owner of a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650, whose worst experiences were with premium gas, he told me he had seen even some prestigious imported cars never available as a flexfuel being remapped to enable operating with ethanol, which is actually easier because direct injections eases the cold start.

This administration has doubled down on stupid. Allowing more ethanol, up to 15% in gasoline. I have throughly tested 4 different vehicles on e10 vs e0. The only one that didn't get lower mileage was a gas murdering ford 4.6L powered Lincoln towncar.
The orange one authorized oil refineries to keep producing winter blend where you get more gasoline per barrel of oil and it's cheaper, well into the summer as long as the states would allow it.

I don't even know how a technical topic, such as octane and oxygenates in engines falls under the executive branch of the US to weigh in on, let alone dictate?

Perhaps the EPA, DOT, and DOE have an interest and some expertise on the subject, but I don't see why the executive branch does. Do government agencies have to go through executive branches when making recommendations, or can they submit them directly to congress?

Where I'm going with this is that we should always be restraining the authority of a single person (executive branch) as appropriate, to distribute that authority to more people.

That's Founding Father talk,

The executive branch manages all the agencies which makes the President the equivalent of a CEO.

Congress could write very specific laws that regulate every detail but they don't. Instead they tend to write a broad goal and then leave it to the agencies to write the actual regulations to achieve that goal.

In this case Congress passed Renewable fuel standards in part of the Energy Policy Act of 2005. That law requires the use of renewable fuel to increase from 11.1 billion gallons in 2009 to 36 billion gallons in 2022. It leaves the EPA, Department of Energy, and Department of Agriculture to decide how to make that happen and allows the executive branch to waive the standard if they want.

All you could ever want to know is here:
https://www.epa.gov/renewable-fuel-standard-program

So, E15 isn't suggested for technical reasons, but to solve the problem of meeting an arbitrary mandate for 36 billion gallons of "renewable" fuel?

I used to feel so fortunate to live in "modern" times rather than some backwards era, but increasingly I get the feeling that I'm closer to the caveman end of human history than the enlightened end.

Maybe they could achieve the renewables target by decreasing fuel economy, hah!

There are some 'own goals' happening right now that will take decades to sort out. This would be an example.

Explain "own goals" in more detail if you care.

Colloquially, shooting oneself in the foot. Dismantling society in the vain hope of staving off the evolution of liberty.

Sounds like the futile effort of deconstructionists to tear down in the name of posthumous justice. Communist experiments can occasionally be run for brief periods of time before reality asserts her will. The creator of the red pill doesn't care which color one chooses to consume, and that choice itself was an illusion.

An amazing thing happened.

Only in the last few years I learned about an Elvis Presley movie called Follow That Dream.

An anarchist tale from 1962. Who knew? Anyway I talked to my brother this evening and he has a dispute with his neighbors over a County right-of-way between them. The neighbor [over-]planted it full of trees and my brother just plans to out-live him and clear them. :)

Now the Antifa crowd in Seattle and Portland haven't read Temporary Autonomous Zones by Hakim Bey, but I have.

I can set up a Pirate Utopia and cede it to my niece when she gets out of lockup.

I see it once in a while in Brazil, even though it happens against the will of the majority. Yet I never saw anybody who actually experienced the evils of Communism to endorse it, sometimes I even see Venezuelan refugees who work at some restaurant arguing with local idiots who claim to be favorable to Nicolás Maduro :turtle:

Another take on ethanol with some interesting twists, especially coming from where it does -- Hagerty is an enthusiast auto insurer.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinio...and-the-planet

The only thing in that article I found surprisingly was the last part about EVs being much more efficient than gas cars. Of course they had to add in that EVs have no soul and aren’t fun to drive.

Hagerty is a classic car insurer and write articles targeted at the old and conservative crowd you normally see at a classic car show.