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Xist 02-22-2025 03:39 AM

Build a house out of styrofoam?!
 
This thing is tiny and the bathroom doesn't seem to be connected to the rest. Also, the toilet drain appears to be the only utility.

The guest house or whatever is just foamboards glued together with stucco on both sides.

If it is stupid, but works? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmChbNxQQhc The thumbnail is a lie, I don't have any idea what that structure is, but it looks nothing like what this lady made.

It definitely looks nicer.

Anyway, I really was trying to stay in grad school...

I just couldn't find the right tab...

No, not this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeHFumyq0MM He assembled a foil-faced foamboard cabin using foil tape and slept in it.

freebeard 02-22-2025 02:04 PM

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The guest house or whatever is...
You've built sheds, what do you think?

You may've missed the 1960 movie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_L-Shaped_Room. Bad shape for usable space, but they were constrained by their roofing solution.

Someone should have whispered "running bond". What they have is a house of cards.

They never show how they finished the side of the roof that is one foot from the fence.

Isaac Zachary 02-22-2025 04:58 PM

There are homes made with SIPS (structural insulation panel system). It's kind of the same idea, only it has plywood sandwiched around the insulation panels.

My favorite structural insulating material is AAC (aerated autoclave concrete). It's an insulation, it's pretty strong (when properly installed), and it's practically fireproof, waterproof, bug proof, mold proof etc.

freebeard 02-22-2025 06:15 PM

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and it's practically fireproof
If a fire ever got though their plaster skim coats, it would turn into napalm.

freebeard 02-22-2025 06:20 PM

This looks like something Xist would like. I know I do!
Building a Giant Trike With a Ride-in Tractor Wheel!

Isaac Zachary 02-22-2025 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 698852)
If a fire ever got though their plaster skim coats, it would turn into napalm.

Concrete would turn into napalm? Am I missing something here?

freebeard 02-22-2025 06:52 PM

Yes and no.

It was in reference to the first of the two videos. And it was hyperbolic. Styrofoam emits toxic vapors, it's polyurethane foam that's most hazardous:
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Fireproof Depot
Is Polyurethane Flammable: Can It Catch Fire or Combust? - Fireproof Depot
Exothermic? :eek:
Mar 7, 2024Polyurethane is combustible and can sustain burning once ignited. Polyurethane is an organic material that can burn rapidly and produce dense smoke, gases, and intense heat during combustion. ... Polyurethane foam (FPF) is flammable and should be kept away from heat sources and
Exothermic? :eek:

freebeard 02-22-2025 08:40 PM

Dami Lee did a pretty good explainer on Derinkuyu. but specifically at Underground Cities: Surviving DUNE's Deadliest Planet?t=600 there's twelve second on building a hay bale house and pouring concrete over it and then having a cow sacrifice the formwork.

It could be aerated hempcrete.

Styrofoam's precursors are tractor fuel
www.sae.org...2013-24-0108: Styrofoam Precursors as Drop-in Diesel Fuel

redpoint5 02-22-2025 10:09 PM

I'd rather be in a tent.

The Japanese build cheap disposable houses. Some of my first memories were of paper walls.

Isaac Zachary 02-22-2025 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 698857)
I'd rather be in a tent.

The Japanese build cheap disposable houses. Some of my first memories were of paper walls.

None of the 5,578 buildings built of AAC were destroyed in the Kobe 7.2 earthquake, and they even survived the subsequent fires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO62ZfaIrQk

Xist 02-23-2025 02:20 AM

freebeard mentioned Aircrete in 2017:
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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 553457)
That's a very instructive set of pictures. :thumbup:

I'm looking for a similarity to T-150 C-pillar 'turning vanes' in vain. Maybe it's because of the open suicide half-door. When I think of flying butter-arses, it's the modern Ford GT40, the VW Golf GTI650-W12 or, for pickups, the Yamaha Cross Hub

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NLo_kDnfg...8959022358.jpg
http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2017...truck-for.html

Back to the pictures: 'Cowl induction' hood, the rooftop vortexes start at the windshield (!), the flattening of the flow aft of the gully between the rear fender flare and fence formed by the side trim, The snowballs on the wheels, the effect of the rear view mirrors. On and on.... Icicles on the tail-lights?

I've been reading about aircrete. It is Portland cement mixed with a 200:1 mixture of water and Dawn dishwashing soap, and a bubble size around 10 microns. One could bury a car in a mound of the stuff (a stiff mixture, with a touch of white glue) parked behind a tubojet like the ones they use to blow out oilwell fires.

A sacriifcial body to make a male mold? But the stuff floats on water, maybe hollow it out with an air tool and paint it?

I got curious, so I tried to get sciency, and the jury is still out whether it went better than when I shrank marine wrap over the front end of my Forester: https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...reply&p=556153 From that thread:
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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 556153)
You can find Youtube videos of someone holding a block of aircrete and holding a blowtorch on the other side. It's like the Space Shuttle's tiles.

Blowtorch: https://youtu.be/aSLJCPR1Prw?t=12m25s
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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 556239)
Concerning the compressive strength of aircrete; you'll need reinforcing. How about basalt?

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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 (Post 556312)
You could use zarcronium bearing fiberglass or polyester fibers for reinforcement. Works real good with concrete.
I don't know if basalt can take CaHO exposure.

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 556325)
It looks like someone had my idea four and a half years ago! From: FAQs | Natural Building Blog
John on June 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM said:

The second person was a salesman from Lightconcrete.net

Al Gore used this on his mansion: Home | Airkrete - All Green Light Weight Cement Insulation!

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 556580)
http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1513352478

Maybe I need more oil on the pan. The brick came out pretty easily, but left a layer on the pan...

...cemented on.

It crumbled all over and I took it to the garbage outside to break up, but the middle did not break easily. I did not attempt to torture test it, I broke off what came easily, and that is what is left.

Actually rectangular pans, more oil, and trying to leave it higher in the middle?

At what point should I be able to turn it over?

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 596474)
So, apparently it had been longer than I thought since I checked up on Honey-do Carpenter. I saw some videos about building a shed, which he periodically says is not a shed. It seems he made several videos which he concluded some months back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7wV0J671A

It has a concrete foundation, metal studs, and the roof is plywood and 2x4s, He laid down each set of studs, cut metal mesh to fit in between, poured aircrete, screwed them together using braces that seemed to be scrap metal, built a crane to lower the cables that he built in a similar fashion, and he said he was going to pour aircrete between the layers of plywood in the roof.

Stucco on the outside, plaster on the inside. The last video is from six months ago and it was still not finished, but I thought that it looked great.

For reference, YouTube recommended this video where a guy made a 12x16 shed for $2,600: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaN1hnR7pSk

The video is almost 100 minutes long. I did not get very far! It is just plywood, siding, 2x4s, and OSB. It has a wooden floor sitting on nine concrete piers. He did not install any insulation.

62% less cost for an insulated building on a concrete foundation sounds like an amazing value.

https://i.imgur.com/TGhpY6e.gif
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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 599284)
"I guarantee that you have never seen insulated studs before!"

Actually, someone told me about them here about a year ago. As I recall, they said it was a slice of IPS, but I cannot find it now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSulcLpAE

This came up:https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1584000365
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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 664992)
The guy said that he tried other guys' aircrete formulae and they didn't work, but he tried different stuff, and shredded recycled styrofoam worked for him.

He made a 2-story building out of it and it held up without reinforcement:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27v7Oq-q9xs

When I opened that video, YouTube recommended videos of the same channel of the guy leaving Aircrete and of some product he claimed was much better. That thread wandered into different topics. For a bit, we discussed making bricks from compressed earth, but Arizona regolith is absolutely wrong for that. We discussed greenhouses briefly, and here is a post about crushing glass to make sand for different industries: https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post675628 We also discussed different insulated building blocks, insulated studs.

Somehow I missed the quote that shaving cream wouldn't work, but then again, they wanted you to purchase their product instead.

Winter in the mountains of Arizona might not have been the best time to experiment on that.

I may finally have time for projects this summer, but since I am not supposed to graduate until September... I keep asking people what I will do.

So far, my best plan is to apply to schools for my clinical fellowship year, but say "Okay, sorry, my school is being weird. They require me to work for an additional 60 hours for free before I can work for money. Will you allow me to work for free for 7.5 days before I officially start work?"

Of course, the "Problem" with schools is they are off for the summer.

I always hear that speech therapy is available if families want it, but I never hear of families taking the schools up on it.

My summer is only one month long, but I really don't want to still be living off student loans.

I desperately hope that my school lets me work for the superfluous 60 hours for free and graduate, they insist that we spend at least 25 hours on-site each week, regardless of how many clinical hours we get, so some of us are spending at least half of the time idly because there isn't enough therapy to do.

A classmate complained weeks ago that she has enough hours to graduate, but is stuck reporting for work 25+ hours a week through May.

That's cool, I am stuck until at least September.


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