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EcoCivic 07-18-2017 08:16 PM

Can I replace an alternator with peltiers?
 
I came up with the idea of using peltiers on the engine to create electricity to run, or at least help run the electrical system. Would that work? If I could turn waste heat into a little bit of useful energy that would be great. I am sure there is a reason this would not work, but oh well. What do you think?

oldtamiyaphile 07-18-2017 08:19 PM

Only if they weigh as much as the rest of the car. You might be able to run the clock off them.

Daox 07-18-2017 09:20 PM

Yes, you can. Its incredibly expensive. I've actually been meaning to make a post on how to do this just so it can be referenced by questions like this in the future. I best get on it! :)

teoman 07-18-2017 11:10 PM

I was toying with the idea myself,

Last time i checked it was 1$ per W.

I always thought that using engine coolant (a much more controlled heat source) for the peltier elemts was a good idea.

redpoint5 07-19-2017 12:08 AM

Peltiers require a temperature differential to generate electricity. This means one side has to absorb the waste engine heat, and the other side has to remove the heat through a heatsink or water cooling (which is then cooled by a heatsink).

I wonder how much surface area you would need, and how much weight it would add, not to mention the cost.

teoman 07-19-2017 03:39 AM

Some modules i have seeen can get 14W form 6x6cm with a temp diff of 250 degc.

But they cost more than 10$/W.

redpoint5 07-19-2017 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teoman (Post 545472)
Some modules i have seeen can get 14W form 6x6cm with a temp diff of 250 degc.

But they cost more than 10$/W.

...and then the small matter of creating a 250 C temp differential. You'd have to get that off the exhaust header since 190 F coolant isn't enough of a temperature difference to maximize the potential.

ar5boosted 07-19-2017 04:54 AM

No.

Alternators are round and Peltiers are square - and sticking square things into round holes isn't really the right thing to do.

[Edit] ok - just joking. Toyota got it to work already sometime back.

teoman 07-19-2017 06:15 AM

I think it is doable.

With coolant you can use the cheaper thermoelectric coolers as generators.

Peak power tracking and adjusting the voltage needs a bit of work but it is all doable.

oil pan 4 07-19-2017 06:25 AM

Or idk maybe solar panels and a real MPPT charge controller?


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