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File this under un-falsified. It build on the work of Tesla, Schauberger, and Hilsh.

He makes an interesting statement that the plans must be in Imperial units, but then reverts to Metric when he describes measurements that are called out as Imperial in the drawings.

The apparent assertion is that the intake and exhaust don't mix, but elements are transmuted at room temperature. I dunno, but it's interesting.

ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/plasmoids-41110.html#post689250

Nevermind. [hand wave] These are not the plasmoids you're looking for.

Malcolm Bendall and Jordan Collin - Thunderstorm Generator Update

Listening so far -- M. Bendall has introduced the plasmoids to ChatGTP4.

See the Paul Pantone Geet Reformer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJCIgF3pc8&t=38s

Then take away all the fringe science and here's a;
How To DIY an onboard Steam Reformer:
https://sci-hub.usualwant.com/10.1021/ef4011274

Basically; Pyrolyse the liquid fuel and mix with steam, then hope for some steam reformation using Zinc and Copper filings as a catalyst, or just be happy with the short chain gaseous hydrocarbons you get from the Pyrolysis.

MIT's plasma reformer shrinks the system down by adding more temperature and an unbeatable catalyst surface area, otherwise known as a plasma arc.

Now you start getting to the point where you are improving the power to weight ratio of the vehicle and thus true economy (urban driving) and some shell company will buy you out and shelve the tech.

But no reason why one cant build what is essentially a giant spark plug yourself.

No need to start with an expensive fuel to mix with water; waste plastic will work, but you might want to leave that bit of the reformer at home.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs...yfuels.2c02934

Malcolm Bendall chose to Open Source the whole thing so people can try it for themselves, despite the debunkers.

Ye is basically the same principle, so no reason for it not to work.
But I think the reactor produces more CH4 type gas than it does H2 and CO.
If there is any magnetic field in the Geet, applying the right hand rule in the minds eye is interesting.

If the exhaust gas in the outer tub cools to below the the condensation temperature of water; there may be charge separation and thus a local HV electric field..?

MIT Plasmatron Principles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNoQLzj00E
(Nb that the UV light is part of the reaction zone)

Zero Emission Hydrogen Production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehEtSNDGwSA

Twelve years ago. At ?t=149 they compare plasma to fender benders on the freeway. Unhelpful, so I went looking and found this:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zSaXL51So...DrawingLrg.JPG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zSaXL51So...DrawingLrg.JPG

Is the 'burn-in time' once, or at each startup? How much of the exhaust get recirculated? Where is fuel added? How are the four check valves modulaled?

I believe the North-South burn in time is a one off thing to get the magnetic field established. Apparently... :)
There may be something to this? Maybe not.
A magnetic field will cause twist and agitation in the mix IF there are ions formed during the pyrolosis and steam reformation process...

NB that with oxygen in the mix the reaction is no so much pyrolysis as partial oxidation, which is an exothermic reaction akin to a very mild 'burn'.

Fuel:
Is in the bubbler.
Weather gas or diesel or old chip oil.
Then to complicate things the fuel is floating on top of water, or coca-cola or orange juice or whatever you feel like experimenting with.
(Carbo-hydrates are just 'the poor cousin' H wise, of Hydro-carbons... So should pyrolyse and steam reform ok too...)


NB the use of an air filter semi submerged in fuel and wicking, mentioned in one of my posts elsewhere, as an alternative to the bubbler.

As for EGR:
Some adopters do that diagram and some adopters draw fresh air into the bubbler and just exhaust the exhaust.
Some have valves to do a bit of both with adjustability.

Remember you're looking at a fixed rpm engine here which makes things much simpler, allowing a lot of tinkering and fiddling with the numerous valves to get the engine running sweetly.
All those valve and fuel water ratio variables do nothing for repeatability of the 'experiment' however and keeps the Geet in the Unicorn Corral.

Your interest in the plasma side of things further complicates matters.
What field? What Ions? Wheres the electro side of EM field? Charge separation?
With a genset or other constant speed engine it matters not. As long as, after much tinkering with valves, the engine runs, with good power per liter of fuel used.

With magnets of known strength polarity etc and a known PD between electrodes you can apply the right hand rule and the laws governing steam reformation and plasmas etc and come up with a repeatable experimental apparatus as MIT etc did.
With the Geet; not so much. :)

In many of these type of inventions a small amount of pyrolysed CH4 type gasses and any steam reformed H2 produced are used to provide enough high H, 'exotic fuel' to idle the engine.
Then that bit of gas is enough? to improve (faster burn) the std combustion process from a std fueling system, where the std fueling system still gives you the control you need to operate a vehicle.
(The liquid fuel also means more space for air (O2) in the cylinder which is why engines that run on liquid fuel tend to produce more power than gas powered engines)

Not at all. :D
it's just complicated IF you want to use known physics to figure out whatTF's going on in a Geet in such a way that the scientific community will pay attention.

If you build one and it works; it works!
That benefits you.
Especially if you can us the rest of the genset's waste heat for water and room heating.
Perhaps that way power and heat costs you less than it currently does..?
(there's some maths!)

You make a video of what you did if you like and perhaps someone else benefits too.

As this just refuses to go away completely and even seems to have been fitted to a helicopter amongst other things, there's a good chance it will!..?
https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow...ocesor/2553095
The physics is there even without the plasmoids, but a giant spark plug after the Geet certainly helps.

The giant spark plug (plasmoids!) :) :
Graphite out of an old style torch battery in the center of a ceramic cylinder, surrounded by a bit of pipe and maybe some copper and zinc filings.
https://www.mdpi.com/energies/energi...1-g003-550.jpg

Would you like me to turn you one on my lathe? :)
I might even add a Al-Ni-Co Magnet to get that spark spinning like a top!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yKQg53cT968
Way less heat issues if it's not sparking in the same place for ages and better plasma coverage too.

Set aside the physics, I can't even interpret the drawing. Am I to presume the 12x1/2" rod is magnetized? The fuel comes in somewhere on the left? The cross-sectional areas of the reactor seem disproportionate. The outer left-to-right flow is slower than the constricted flow right-to-left?
Nah, I'm good.

The rod is said to become ...weirdly magnetized after the initial North-South orientation/conditioning.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...rod+magnetised.
This is where the pseudo science elephant enters the room..??

Yes the rod will restrict flow, but NB that, that is the fuel, not the air intake, which is to the left, after the reactor.
It will speed up the flow velocity and turbulence and force the gasses closer to the hot tube surface.
Plus (if) any magnet acting on ions; swirl and turbulence.

The fuel is on the right in the bubbler. The engine is on the left.

The bubbler can contain:

Just fuel:
Will give you pyrolyzed, CH4 and the like, gaseous fuel.

Fuel floating on water:
Will give you the same pyrolysed, CH4 and the like, gaseous fuel and, if you're lucky, some steam reformed hydrogen. (and burnable CO)

Other crazy mixtures of fuels and oils and water based whatever, depending on how mad scientist you're feeling that day. :)

Air is mixed in with that processed gaseous fuel via the valve on the left, after the reactor, before the intake.

Some people modify the drawing so you can draw fresh air into the bubbler, or exhaust, or any combination of the 2.
ie: You can choose between pure EGR into the bubbler and pure air into the bubbler and anywhere in-between.

(If there's air coming into the system before the reactor you will get partial oxidation rather than pyrolysis in the reactor)

As you can imagine there's a hell of a lot of fiddling with those valves!

Well-hell!? :) There your plasmoids are!!?
From around 7min45s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTmN5EEcJ5Y

He used the one thing to start the other?

I skipped to 7:45, I don't see how you persevered through the rest.

I skipped ahead too, using the preview pane till things looked interesting.
(Preview pane may be part of the Enhancer for YouTube extension)
But ye; keeping the carb to start and warm the engine exhaust would be the only way really to do this.

Unless you did the old paraffin/kerosene blow torch startup method would probably work too, but why bother with all that and wait to start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS8OnK-QCGI

You've heard of the old tractors that started and warmed on petrol before switching to paraffin..?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_vaporising_oil

(I'm surprised ...er... someone hasn't come along to take a dump on pyrolosys and steam reformation yet. I spoze the amount of skillz and equipment needed to do this precludes 99.999% of the population from doing it, so its not a threat like just adding stuff to your oil)

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Production units are in manufacture -- the announcement is waiting for them to ramp up volume.

Someone will be first to install this on a Beetle flat four. 30% more efficiency for $700. No more exhaust fumes from the heater ;)

This. Is. Interesting. At T=17:27 they produce a 'model of a time crystal'. Malcolm Bendall comments that it would make an interesting house.

No kidding. What they have is derivative of an edge vertex icosahedral hemisphere. Specifically, if you suspend a membrane inside an icosahedral cage, it assumes this shape. Else tensegrity struts on the inside.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/war...3-7d3d97612a88
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/war...3-7d3d97612a88

It's the midpoint of Bucky Fuller's Jitterbug transformation.

More 'plasmoids'!?
From around 1min55 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJO0SxztcSw

I'm surprised! Hmmm..!?

Else a flashlight shining through turbulence air?

What's with the 1600 degree temps at the five minute mark. Shouldn't the target be red white hot?

Oh crap! I just saw the flashlight! Damn! :mad:

Ye... Now I've watched more of it; I think this video can be discounted.
Pity...

ie: He may be pyrolysing the fuel and maybe even getting a bit of steam reformation and/or water-gas shift, but no magic plasma proof to be seen here.

Logic: Maybe you can find more on this -- The Lost Century | Full Documentary 37:29--38:52.

It sounds like the GEET Reformer or the Thunderstorm Generator (he uses that term in the video).

DuckDuckGo got nuthin'.

Edit:
Another one at 1:01:53 -- 1:03:21, Ken Shoulders.

I don't have the time atm. Is there a way to mark your post unread so I don't forget?
I don't see an obvious way from a quick look..?

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