DIY Plasmoids

[freebeard]

Thunderstorm Generator | COMPLETE DIY BUILD GUIDE | Malcolm Bendall's Plasmoid Tech

File this under un-falsified. It build on the work of Tesla, Schauberger, and Hilsh.

He makes an interesting statement that the plans must be in Imperial units, but then reverts to Metric when he describes measurements that are called out as Imperial in the drawings.

The apparent assertion is that the intake and exhaust don't mix, but elements are transmuted at room temperature. I dunno, but it's interesting.

[freebeard]

File this under un-falsified.

ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/plasmoids-41110.html#post689250

Nevermind. [hand wave] These are not the plasmoids you're looking for.

[freebeard]

Malcolm Bendall and Jordan Collin - Thunderstorm Generator Update

Listening so far -- M. Bendall has introduced the plasmoids to ChatGTP4.

[Logic]

See the Paul Pantone Geet Reformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJCIgF3pc8&t=38s

Then take away all the fringe science and here's a;
How To DIY an onboard Steam Reformer:
https://sci-hub.usualwant.com/10.1021/ef4011274

Basically; Pyrolyse the liquid fuel and mix with steam, then hope for some steam reformation using Zinc and Copper filings as a catalyst, or just be happy with the short chain gaseous hydrocarbons you get from the Pyrolysis.

MIT's plasma reformer shrinks the system down by adding more temperature and an unbeatable catalyst surface area, otherwise known as a plasma arc.

Now you start getting to the point where you are improving the power to weight ratio of the vehicle and thus true economy (urban driving) and some shell company will buy you out and shelve the tech.

But no reason why one cant build what is essentially a giant spark plug yourself.

[Logic]

No need to start with an expensive fuel to mix with water; waste plastic will work, but you might want to leave that bit of the reformer at home.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs...yfuels.2c02934

[freebeard]

...and some shell company will buy you out and shelve the tech.

Malcolm Bendall chose to Open Source the whole thing so people can try it for themselves, despite the debunkers.

[Logic]

Ye is basically the same principle, so no reason for it not to work.
But I think the reactor produces more CH4 type gas than it does H2 and CO.
If there is any magnetic field in the Geet, applying the right hand rule in the minds eye is interesting.

If the exhaust gas in the outer tub cools to below the the condensation temperature of water; there may be charge separation and thus a local HV electric field..?

MIT Plasmatron Principles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNoQLzj00E

(Nb that the UV light is part of the reaction zone)

Zero Emission Hydrogen Production

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehEtSNDGwSA

[freebeard]

Twelve years ago. At ?t=149 they compare plasma to fender benders on the freeway. Unhelpful, so I went looking and found this:


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zSaXL51So...DrawingLrg.JPG

Is the 'burn-in time' once, or at each startup? How much of the exhaust get recirculated? Where is fuel added? How are the four check valves modulaled?

[Logic]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Twelve years ago. At ?t=149 they compare plasma to fender benders on the freeway. Unhelpful, so I went looking and found this:


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zSaXL51So...DrawingLrg.JPG

Is the 'burn-in time' once, or at each startup? How much of the exhaust get recirculated? Where is fuel added? How are the four check valves modulaled?

I believe the North-South burn in time is a one off thing to get the magnetic field established. Apparently...
There may be something to this? Maybe not.
A magnetic field will cause twist and agitation in the mix IF there are ions formed during the pyrolosis and steam reformation process...

NB that with oxygen in the mix the reaction is no so much pyrolysis as partial oxidation, which is an exothermic reaction akin to a very mild 'burn'.

Fuel:
Is in the bubbler.
Weather gas or diesel or old chip oil.
Then to complicate things the fuel is floating on top of water, or coca-cola or orange juice or whatever you feel like experimenting with.
(Carbo-hydrates are just 'the poor cousin' H wise, of Hydro-carbons... So should pyrolyse and steam reform ok too...)


NB the use of an air filter semi submerged in fuel and wicking, mentioned in one of my posts elsewhere, as an alternative to the bubbler.

As for EGR:
Some adopters do that diagram and some adopters draw fresh air into the bubbler and just exhaust the exhaust.
Some have valves to do a bit of both with adjustability.

Remember you're looking at a fixed rpm engine here which makes things much simpler, allowing a lot of tinkering and fiddling with the numerous valves to get the engine running sweetly.
All those valve and fuel water ratio variables do nothing for repeatability of the 'experiment' however and keeps the Geet in the Unicorn Corral.

Your interest in the plasma side of things further complicates matters.
What field? What Ions? Wheres the electro side of EM field? Charge separation?
With a genset or other constant speed engine it matters not. As long as, after much tinkering with valves, the engine runs, with good power per liter of fuel used.

With magnets of known strength polarity etc and a known PD between electrodes you can apply the right hand rule and the laws governing steam reformation and plasmas etc and come up with a repeatable experimental apparatus as MIT etc did.
With the Geet; not so much.

In many of these type of inventions a small amount of pyrolysed CH4 type gasses and any steam reformed H2 produced are used to provide enough high H, 'exotic fuel' to idle the engine.
Then that bit of gas is enough? to improve (faster burn) the std combustion process from a std fueling system, where the std fueling system still gives you the control you need to operate a vehicle.
(The liquid fuel also means more space for air (O2) in the cylinder which is why engines that run on liquid fuel tend to produce more power than gas powered engines)

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Your interest in the plasma side of things further complicates matters.

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