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Georgboy 02-06-2012 05:23 PM

Engine off coasting?
 
How long do you need to coast before you actually gain increased mpg? Engine off for more than 6 seconds? At what point does it actually cost more to start (fuel enrichment) the engine back up vs just engine on coasting?

SentraSE-R 02-06-2012 05:31 PM

It depends on how long and how hard you used the gas pedal before you started the coast, and how long your trip is. Typically with a Scangauge or Ultra-gauge, you'll see immediate mpg gains when you start coasting, within a block or two. Get instrumentation like that, and eliminate the guesswork.

Sven7 02-11-2012 12:24 AM

If you bump start does it change the mixture? (Specifically Mazda F2 engine)

Georgboy 02-11-2012 02:18 PM

I have heard that the engine if left off to long (eoc) then when fired back up the ECM goes into fuel enrichment ... I am not sure..just curious..

SentraSE-R 02-11-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Georgboy (Post 286102)
I have heard that the engine if left off to long (eoc) then when fired back up the ECM goes into fuel enrichment ... I am not sure..just curious..

Again, it depends on the ECU software. My 2002 Sentra went into open loop (enrichment) for a full 4 minutes following any EOC. My 2006 Scion stays in closed loop most of the time when restarted, even after a 5 mile EOC.

GRU 02-11-2012 06:27 PM

5 miles is a long coast, those are definelty worth turning the engine off, but for anything under 30 seconds i don't think it's worth turning the engine off

wanderling 02-11-2012 09:35 PM

Similar question: What's the shortest time where turning off and re-starting your engine is a net gain over idling? Or, at what time is it the same or better to idle, if any?

SentraSE-R 02-11-2012 09:49 PM

The automotive pundits say 7 seconds is the magic number with modern fuel-injected cars. Shut your engine down at any stoplight where you'll be idling >7 seconds. You'll use less gas to restart it than you'd waste idling. The EPA says $.17 of every gas dollar is wasted idling.

wanderling 02-11-2012 09:52 PM

Thank you. Now does that figure change with kick-starting?

SentraSE-R 02-11-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wanderling (Post 286196)
Thank you. Now does that figure change with kick-starting?

Probably not. The 7 second comparison is strictly fuel used. It doesn't consider electricity to crank the starter. Bump starting is more efficient than using the starter, but you may pay by replacing your clutch sooner.


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