Fatal blow to Climate Denial
 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/f...il/transcript/PBS FRONTLINE began a special, three, 90-minute episodes: 'THE POWER OF BIG OIL' on April 19,2022.
Investigators have been pouring over 40-years of Exxon's archives, which reside at the University of Texas, at Austin, Texas.
The documents , plus interviews with actual key participants, willing to be interviewed, cover the history of Exxon's involvement in the Global Warming/ Climate Change, along with Big-Oil, Big-Coal, Big-Trade Associations, Climate Scientists, Media, Big-Propaganda, Useful Idiots, US GOVT dupes, etc..
It's extremely informational.
So far, the bottom line is that, the fossil-fuel industry always knew climate change was real. 'Catastrophic.'
They'd been conducting parallel climate research of their own, and coming to identical conclusions as the mainstream science.
Until James Hansen testified before the US Congress, Summer, 1988, as to the fact that C.C. was 'real' and that we were already 'in it', denial didn't exist.
That changed overnight, as the media made it front-page news.
We've been at war with the 'facts' ever since.
Names are named. Individuals speak for themselves. Documents are fully vetted.
Senator, Chuck Hagel ( R) Nebraska, say he was lied to, and misled by them
As someone from outer space, I find it all darkly fascinating.
If you've been wondering about it all, it's worth a look.
Available online and as podcasts.
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If you're from outer space, show me your towel.

I'll have to give it a watch and comment later. I do generally enjoy Frontline.

Climate denial has had a fatal blow long ago. Very few believe global climate is unchanging, so few that their numbers are irrelevant.

Idk about that. I was in an argument with half of the state of Arizona yesterday about lake Powell’s water levels dropping and they keep claiming the earth goes in cycles and that there’s no point in being green here with China polluting like crazy

towel
 

Don't have any. They're only for Earthlings. Well not all of them.;)

Hitchbiker's Guide reference?

3x1.5hr is an investment in time. I will wait for the series to air and people I respect offering reaction videos on Youtube. 12 minutes is the sweet spot. :)

"Adam and Eve CIA" <== 1965
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Word of the Day: Deprove: www.quora.com/Is-there-such-a-word-as-deprove?

It sounds like the half of the state of Arizona you were in disagreement with acknowledge climate change based on what you are sharing here (earth cycles and China pollution).

How much more water would Lake Powell have if I took the most extraordinary measure I could to reduce global warming, and kill myself? How much more water would there be if the entire state of AZ maximally reduced emissions by ending themselves? What is the point of Lake Powell if nobody is around to enjoy it?

The people you're arguing with aren't wrong about the futility of individual action, and that therein lay the entire problem.

That's not an excuse to forego conservation; after all I'm on an efficiency forum because I'm so fascinated by maximizing return on investment (efficiency). I'm realistic about those efforts, however.

You may be confusing the meaning of "climate change" because the original definition was the science/reality of an ever-changing global climate, and the more recent usage refers to a religion. The most common usage of the "climate denier" label now isn't to describe those that deny science, but to describe those that deny the religion.

The green religious folks antagonize the unbelieving heathens, and in return the unbelieving heathens antagonize the green religious folks by purposefully being sacrilegious to the faith. Of course, both behaviors are absurd.

Adam & Eve
 

For me, it'll have wait for the second resurrection.
If you've got anything on the whereabouts of Astaroth, I'm all in!:)

Those Chinese capitalists have enabled the greening by taking on all the pollution. It's a plot to weaken us.

We should be 3D printing houses out of mud [laced with flash graphene].

Astaroth? It may be inside your computer:

The full title is The Adam And Eve Story The History Of Cataclysms
What in [*deity}'s name is a 'second lower-case-r 'resurrection". Blue pill joke? :confused: