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MetroMPG 07-21-2016 12:23 PM

Fess up: are you an automotive hoarder? (Eco-cars or not)


My name is Darin, and I'm a car hoarder.

(The first step is admitting you have a problem, yes?)

And then there are the enablers:


Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 519008)
Car hoarding doesn't have to make sense! As long as it's fun! :thumbup:

I found a nice Metro to buy today. I'm perpetually hunting for a decent twin of my '98 Firefly. I dunno if the Metro is still available, but I do know I'll buy it if I can. And that would be car number seven, currently. Yikes.

- 98 Firefly
- 04 Prius (sold! Awaiting payment)
- 04 Echo (next winter beater)
- 92 Firefly convertible (future restoration project)
- ForkenSwift Metro EV rusted out shell/parts car
- 91 Suzuki Swift parts car
- possible nice new Metro??

But if I get the Metro, I WILL be culling the herd: Prius tomorrow, if the plan holds; At least one of the parts cars will go this year; Echo will be gone next summer if I get the Metro.

So, how big is your herd?

Oh, and list 'em.

mcrews 07-21-2016 01:58 PM

some topics are better off left untouched.........

:thumbup: :p ;)

Fat Charlie 07-21-2016 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 519027)

My name is Darin, and I'm a car hoarder.

Hi, Darin.

Two adults here, two cars. Our max ever was three, and that was only once, a junker that was out of the way enough that it wasn't worth getting it to a scrapyard. Then we put it on CL for a few hundred and it left.

darcane 07-21-2016 05:37 PM

I'm not a hoarder, I only have... er, wait... it only goes up to 7?

Hrmm... :p

darcane 07-21-2016 05:46 PM

Actually, current list is only six:
'01 Civic - daily beater
'05 Tahoe - Wife's daily driver
'06 Ninja 650R
'67 Mustang
'68 Chevy C10
'86 Toyota Corolla

but it changes frequently and is usually higher. I'm in between project cars while I'm moving.

RedDevil 07-21-2016 06:13 PM

Not a car hoarder in the usual way.
I used to have an '85 Honda Civic that just wouldn't die. Drove it to the north of Finland. Did powerslides on the beach. Raced it, had a couple of accidents, still it held up until rust ate its structural parts - at 19 years of age.
My friends had scores of cars over the years that I owned that little Civic.
I used to joke that my first, second, third, etc. car were all the same: that Civic.
Does keeping a car alive against the odds count as hoarding? ;)

Meanwhile I went through 6 motorbikes, owning 3 at a time. Being single.
Bikes are gone now, saw too many bad things happen, happy I'm still alive - and a father of 2, sure does change your world view.

redneck 07-21-2016 08:00 PM



Fess up: are you an automotive hoarder?

I'm not sure... :confused:


06 Chevy Equinox (wife's)
02 Chevy 1500 truck
01 Dodge 3500
96 Geo XL1
87 Dodge B250
83 Mercedes 300D
80 Datsun Mini Motor home (project)
79 MGB (project)
79 Dodge Diesel service truck
76 Chevy Chevette drag car (project)
74 Chevy C10 re-powered with a diesel
67 Buick (project)
63 Mercury
43 Jeep

Junkers & parts cars

80's Mercedes Diesel wagon
79 Chevy Chevette
2- 70's VW bugs
70 Cadillac
2- 68 Chevy C10

Total - 21

So, does that make me a automotive hoarder...??? :o




jamesqf 07-21-2016 11:56 PM

There's a problem with the poll: the last option (I drive everything I own!) can be combined with any of the others. I own two (well, three if you count the horse - and do bikes count?), Insight and Toyota pickup, which are used for different sorts of driving.

me and my metro 07-22-2016 01:23 AM

I was a certified Metroholic for at least 8 years, 2007-2015. I have fully recovered, I nor any of my family members own Metros anymore.
Unfortunately I was only temporarily cured, I now have three 2002 L series Saturns. They are a much nicer car than a Metro and they flat tow behind the motorhome. I have been driving my LW300 for the last year. They are really Opel Vectra B series made here and marketed as the big Saturn from 2000-2004. The v-6 cars are all automatics, the 2.2 Ecotec 4 cylinder cars were available with both a 5 speed and the automatic. I have made several maintenance repairs to this car but I really miss driving a stick shift. So I went 700 miles to buy a L200/5 car with a thrown rod. It is a high line car with all options, I have another Ecotec short block. I may convert my v-6 wagon to the 4/5, I have the same year complete donor. Oh crap- here we go again. The other sedan is a 4/auto with a bad timing chain and bent valves. Clean car w/ 130k for $300, I couldn't pass it up. I will repair this one and drive it while I decide what to do with the wagon.

The list
1968 CST 3/4 ton Chevy pickup on a 72 4x4 chassis. Been in the family since new.
1984 GMC custom crew cab on a suburban frame, 6.5 / 700r4 4x4
2006 Lincoln Navigator 4x4
1996 Coachman motorhome 33'
1984 Ford Ranger 4x4 ranch truck
1984 Seaswirl 18' ski boat w/ 350 Chevy/OMC
2002 Saturn LW300
2002 Saturn L200/5
2002 Saturn L200/A

These are in my name and there are 2 drivers.
Pretty scary when you write it down.

MetroMPG 07-22-2016 09:21 AM

Wow. I think Redneck is going to win.



There's a problem with the poll: the last option (I drive everything I own!) can be combined with any of the others.
I guess the assumption I was going by: if you actually have insurance on and use all your vehicles, it's not really hoarding.

Maybe that's the difference between "collecting" and hoarding. :D

Gasoline Fumes 07-22-2016 09:41 AM

In my driveway:
1991 Honda Civic Wagon - 75 MPG daily/weekly driver
1997 Toyota Corolla - backup car
1994 Geo Metro - MPG project that I'm currently ignoring
1994 Geo Metro - Suzuki Swift GTi swap that might never happen
1995 Honda Accord - Sister's car, blown head gasket, I'm "fixing" it
1980 Chevy K20 Pickup - I need to sell it

In the backyard:
1990 Honda Civic Wagon - parts car
1990 Suzuki Swift - parts car
1990 Toyota Corolla - parts car that is no longer needed
1993 Geo Metro - parts car
1998 Chevy Metro - parts car

Coming soon:

MetroMPG 07-22-2016 09:48 AM

Tasty list, Fumes!

Looking forward to the CRXFi.


Also, I'm a boat hoarder. Currently 7. Mostly sailboats of various sizes, 3 used regularly.

EDIT: oh, and a bicycle hoarder. :D Five in usable condition, 3 used regularly.

Gasoline Fumes 07-22-2016 10:05 AM

I'm a non-practicing minimalist! :)

I have three usable bicycles and three unusable mopeds.

I just sold a utility trailer and plan to sell my car-hauling trailer next.

MetroMPG 07-22-2016 10:07 AM

Non-practicing ... that's funny!

You have a car hauler! Talk about an enabler.

Fat Charlie 07-22-2016 12:16 PM

Other vehicles...
We've got two kayaks (a one and a two seater).
One canoe.
Four bicycles (one per person).
And a couple razor scooters.

Frank Lee 07-22-2016 01:02 PM

Oh gawd, other vehicles too? :eek: I don't know, maybe 100?

mcrews 07-22-2016 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 519132)
Oh gawd, other vehicles too? :eek: I don't know, maybe 100?

now THAT'S what I'm talkin about!! :eek::thumbup::eek::thumbup::cool:

niky 07-22-2016 11:53 PM

I lose this one. Our family shares three cars (one not running), but I only have one in my name.

I'm cheap.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 07-23-2016 01:03 AM

An uncle of mine is somewhat a car-hoarder, but now he has only 4 cars even though 2 of them are not running. At least one of the cars is just accumulating dust for more than 6 years. I try to avoid this uncle's example, no wonder I like utility vehicles such as vans (including minivans) so much.

Gasoline Fumes 07-28-2016 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 519132)
Oh gawd, other vehicles too? :eek: I don't know, maybe 100?

Still working on the list? :D

19bonestock88 07-29-2016 08:34 AM

I've got two myself, and my wife has one...

I've got a 2004 Saturn Ion Redline(1 of 1012), that is a project car
My daily driver is a 2007 Chevy Malibu, and it's my efficiency project, though I would rather a smaller car or 4 cyl truck as a daily

My wife drives a 2015 Subaru Impreza 2.0i base, CVT...

cowmeat 07-29-2016 12:17 PM

Wasn't sure if you meant car "brand" hoarder, but we have 3 G1 Insights in the family right now so yeah, maybe we are a family of Insight hoarders.

My son also had 3 Festivas at the same time, including my old car Black Widow

Xist 07-30-2016 07:22 AM

Hoarder? Yes. Cars? No. I would not know where to put another!

2000 Honda Civic HX (manual)
Gary Fisher mountain bike (missing part of the handlebars and keys)

The only place to park another vehicle would be in front of someone else's house (with a city permit) or in the dirt alley, behind a metal gate, and supposedly we cannot make copies of that key. I would not be comfortable parking a car anywhere I would not see daily. We have had people turn off our power and steal anything of value.

Daox 08-01-2016 02:15 PM

My current count is at 8 including motorcycles. But, its getting better haha. Soon the Metro will be on its way, and hopefully the Civic not too long after that.

2004 Toyota Prius
2004 Honda Civic
2000 Honda Insight
1999 Chevy Metro
1993 Toyota Tercel
1983 Honda CM400
1965 Honda S65
1951 Ford F1

MetroMPG 08-01-2016 03:14 PM

Culling the herd!

The 2004 Prius sold just before I picked up that 2000 Metro last week.

The Swift GT parts car is currently advertised, and someone says they're coming for the engine. After that the bones will be picked over, and the shell scrapped.

I'll be down to 5 cars after that... less than my bicycle count! The goal is to be down to 4 before the snow flies (bye bye ForkenSwift shell). Then to 3 next summer when I sell the Echo.

It'll be an all Firefly/Metro fleet.

... for a while. :)

Wonderboy 08-11-2016 01:49 PM

My name is Will and I used to be a hoarder. I had 6 cars at one point, but now I'm back down to one now that I've bestowed the CRXFi legacy unto Gasoline Fumes. I've lived through and made it back to 1-to-1. Moving to a place where stashing is more difficult helps to this end. I would probably have several cars if I had access to cheap storage.

Slightly on-topic question for a mod: Is there a way to transfer a car (read: member of the hoard fleet) from one user's EM garage to another user? (yes, I know there technically is, but can you do it?) Please move the CRXFi to Gasoline Fumes' garage.

Casanova 08-11-2016 02:00 PM

Guilty as charged... :o

2003 Audi A6 Avant 1.9TDI
--this is the daily hack
1999 BMW E39 530d Touring
--this was the daily hack, now rudely garage-squatting
1996 Kawasaki ZZR600-E4
--the bike!
1995 Citroen XM 2.0 turbo petrol/LPG
--has sat for 4 years gathering moss now, sadly
1991 Citroen BX TZD turbodiesel hatch
--has sat for 6 months gathering dust now, sadly
1987 Citroen AX 11TRE
--the backup daily (& polar opposite!), also for grass autotests
1976 BMW 1602 saloon
--long-term project & money sink
2004 BMW E39 530d saloon
--mostly-stripped, was a crashed engine donor for the above
1965 Morris Minor 1000
--rusty and in the way; I really have no idea why I own it...

Xringer 08-11-2016 02:02 PM

Nope, not me!
We have the Prius C that we use for almost everything.
The FWD Ford Escape that we use very little.

However, I just found out that I will need AWD this winter.. :(
Being a Texan, I HATE driving in snow and ice.
So I figured a FWD SUV was gonna last me for the rest of my life..
Because I was NEVER gonna drive in bad winter weather again!!
Yes, it's a 2009 with less than 9k miles on the odometer. :p

The type of AWD I'm looking is like this:
Used One-Owner 2014 Toyota RAV4 LE - Near Woburn MA - Woburn Toyota

So, should I keep the Escape? I'm really thinking about it.. My kid is always
borrowing it, when her BMW (325i ? X-Drive) needs another repair.. :p
She kinda likes it. My wife likes it for driving her friends to the airport etc..
I know a trade-in offer will be less than $9,000.. :(

Maybe I need summer and winter SUVs..?.

Mrhurst 08-11-2016 02:10 PM

Sort of cheating since I have a dealers license, must still have 100.
A few of the more interesting that I cant part with
1957 2CV electric
2001 insight
2002 insight-broken CVT
1969 avenger gt project
1969 vw dune buggy (manx copy)
1966 vw dune buggy orig deserter bodied project
1957 porsche 356a
1969 porsche 912
1966 porsche 912
1958 vw bug
bunch of semi dead Peugeot diesels..they just rot away but always run

ocnorb 08-11-2016 02:12 PM

I will never admit it.

2013 Volt - daily
2012 Leaf - wife's daily
'32 coupe project that just sits
'57 IH S120 project nearing completion
'73 IH Crew Cab pickup- runs, needs body work/paint
1997 Toyota Landcruiser 40th anniversary edition. Use to camp and haul dogs around.
1976 Vogue motor home with 33k miles

7 or 8 motorcycles too.

What problem?

(I'm actually going to cull the herd significantly this year. Really. No, really I am. )

jamesqf 08-11-2016 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Xringer (Post 520381)
However, I just found out that I will need AWD this winter..

You don't actually need it (assuming you're driving around Massachusetts). People got around just fine thereabouts long before anything but jeeps had 4WD. Though I did have a neighbor who somehow put a Jeep drivetrain under a mid-60s Chevy II :-)

Xringer 08-11-2016 02:41 PM

The hills that I need to climb this winter, should be against MA state law!
The coffee in the cup holder goes into the back seat steep.. :eek:

I would need to put on the chains on the Ford to get up there.
I'm hoping the Rav4 AWD can make it where the BMW X-Drive can go.
Everyone who lives on top of these hills has AWD.

To get up there on foot, we would need ice climbing equipment..:snail:

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 08-11-2016 03:18 PM

If you would go there just once in a while, why bothering to get a more expensive and fuel-consuming AWD when chains could make your FWD rig able to do so?

JimIsbell 08-11-2016 03:48 PM

its not an affliction ( I own 18 cars,classics ALL) I am doing a service to humanity by preserving history. (denial)

1936 Replica SS100 Jaguar.
1937 Ford pickup RatRod (1970 Cadillac V8)
1956 Continental
1970 Jaguar XKE
1972 Lola Formula Ford
1983 Jagual XJ6
1984 Rolls Royce Silver Spur LWB
2000 Honda Insight
2007 Lincoln Towncar
2008 Saturn Sky Redline Roadster

Cant remember the other 8.

RealZ28 08-11-2016 03:51 PM

Not too bad here. Currently:
2015 Chevy Equinox
2014 GMC Sierra Crew Cab
2009 Chevy Aveo
1999 Buick Park Avenue ULTRA
1995 Z28 Convertible
2008 Harley Davidson Dyna Lowrider (105th Anniversary)
2003 Suzuki GZ250
1976 Puch MAXI [2hp] (1977 Puch MAXI stolen)

Bending the definition of 'vehicles':
2010 30' Crossroads Sunset Trail RV
2016 John Deere X758 (the other two tractors are 'just lawnmowers'...hehe)

Xringer 08-11-2016 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 520400)
If you would go there just once in a while, why bothering to get a more expensive and fuel-consuming AWD when chains could make your FWD rig able to do so?

A few reasons:
1. I can't leave the chains on the SUV, because they should not be used, or aren't allowed on main roads that have been plowed. (They damage the roads).

2. Putting the chains on and removing them when I get to the hilly area, is not easy and it's hard to find a safe place to park, during a large snow storm. Parking lots are likely to have deep snow blocking access.

3. I'm 70 years old, and don't like working outdoors during a winter storm.

4. I will not be using the AWD for any trips that do not require carrying large or heavy cargo. No Pizza runs.. (I like the Prius C for those trips).
(During the last 3 or 4 years, I put about 300-400 miles on the Ford per year).
So fuel use isn't a big deal for the SUV. I can't remember the last time I got a fill up..

jray3 08-11-2016 05:39 PM

Guilty as charged.
2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV (16 kWh, 49 kW electric)
2000 Honda Odyssey gasser
1987 Ford F-250, 6.9 liter diesel IDI
1983 Grumman KurbWatt (32 kwh, 120 kW electric)
1982 Mazda RX-7 (older electric conversion soon to join the fleet)
1971 Karmann Ghia (24 kWh, 340 kW electric hot rod)
1965 Karmann Ghia Cabriolet (gasser, formerly electric)
1965 Simplicity Sovereign garden tractor (48V electric)
Cushman Minute Miser utility scooter (24V electric)

Crazyrabbit 08-11-2016 07:03 PM

Hey, its not a hoard, it is an investment!
Just to add a little ecomodder content, my daily driver is a 2004 Vibe. I made a thermostatic warm air inlet that has a mixer valve so I can switch between the thermostatically controlled warm air and a cold pitot ram air supply for power bursts. Best trip so far was from Pasadena CA to Tempe AZ at 48.2 mpg. There was a bit of a tailwind. I need to figure out how to game the O2 sensor, if anybody knows a link on how to do it, that would be appreciated.

The wife drives a 2010 Matrix.
My daughter drives a 2004 Matrix
Then there is the 1953 MGTD, a 1957 and a 1963 Sears (Puch) 175 Twingles, a 1963 Austin Mini 850 Super Deluxe, a 1965 Volvo 122S, two 1966 Lotus Cortinas, a 1985 RZ350, and a 1991 Miata.

I lost my job, so its possible that will trigger the Lotus Cortina retirement plan here. The 1997 Dodge Cummins, the 1981 Rabbit Diesel, and another project car all left the building in the last couple of years. So 12, down from 15, I don't need no stinking 10 step program.

LouMan 08-11-2016 07:24 PM

well lets see LOL

1929 Mercedes Gazel kit (project)
1967 Chevy Impala (Super Natural tv show project)
1969 VW Karmann Ghia (project)
1984 ford LTD II
1988 Bayliner I know not a car but I drive it
1989 Cajun Bass Boat
2001 Dodge Dakota
2004 Yamaha V-Star
2008 Honda Shadow

I made sure I had something of each brand so's not to get caught up in that (you a Chevy guy, no I'm a Ford guy, no I'M A German car all the way, hay you aint got nothing if it isn't Asian) hahhaa

Bicycle Bob 08-11-2016 07:39 PM

I went 30 years on zero cars, and am amazed that I now have three. One is parts-only, one is in occasional use, and one is being restored to allow sale of the other. All 3-cyl cars. I also have a pedal car experimental relic that still makes news:
The Flexible Flyer: How composites made velomobile history : CompositesWorld

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