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Xist 10-29-2019 06:17 PM

Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot may merge
 
For the glory of Sontar! (I do not have any idea who else this benefits) FC attempted to merge with Renault earlier this year, which failed, as well it should have, but Peugeot? Why not?!

Maybe all of the terrible brands will merge into some kind of Voltron that cannot support its own weight.

FC stocks rose 7.5% after the report. Did they drop when the Renault deal failed?

All of these dang brands that I cannot spell! Renault, Peugeot, Sontar, and Chrysler!

Whatever an Elkann is, that broke off talks with Renault after the French government intervened, and pushed for them to resolve tensions with Nissan.

Fiat Chrysler & Peugeot owner PSA in talks to combine

redpoint5 10-29-2019 07:39 PM

We'll see many mergers/takeovers in the future because the market is supersaturated with brands as vehicles trend towards commoditization.

It'll be interesting to me when some Japanese brands consolidate. A single country the (physical) size of California with Toyota, Honda, Daihatsu, Nissan, Suzuki, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Isuzu, Kawasaki, Yamaha, and Mitsuoka.

There are way too many vehicle models in the world, let alone manufacturers.

Fat Charlie 10-29-2019 08:45 PM

Reminds me of something from the Onion a decade or two ago...

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Embarrassed company officials today revealed that a typographical error on the ballots used to cast votes in the proposed deal between Peugeot and FCA has inadvertently caused the two companies to merde.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 10-29-2019 10:35 PM

Considering that FCA and PSA had its partnership in the van segment downsized, so nowadays the mid-size Euro van in the Fiat range is not based on the same project that resulted on the Peugeot Expert among other variants, a merge with PSA would sound quite surprising to me.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s4ALW-n8U...2Bconceito.jpg

But anyway, FCA now owns a quite excessive amount of brands, just like GM did prior to its reorganization, so I wouldn't really hold my breath for a merge. Some strenghtening of the joint-venture for vans would seem more likely.

oil pan 4 10-30-2019 11:27 AM

Yeah crap usually sticks to crap.

rmay635703 10-30-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 610603)
We'll see many mergers/takeovers in the future because the market is supersaturated with brands as vehicles trend towards commoditization

There are way too many vehicle models in the world, let alone manufacturers.

There can be only one.

Currently though it’s just garbage bankrupt brands merging.

Stubby79 10-30-2019 02:43 PM

Aren't you supposed to abandon a sinking ship, not jump on board one?

redpoint5 10-30-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stubby79 (Post 610685)
Aren't you supposed to abandon a sinking ship, not jump on board one?

If your ship is sturdy enough to stabilize the sinking one, and the sinking one has valuable assets onboard, you might benefit.

It's those sinking ships with nothing of value that you steer clear of.

Fat Charlie 10-30-2019 07:40 PM

Two sinking ships...

http://web.sbu.edu/theology/bychkov/escher_stairs.jpg

oil pan 4 10-31-2019 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stubby79 (Post 610685)
Aren't you supposed to abandon a sinking ship, not jump on board one?

Depends if it's sinking faster then the one you're on.

litesong 11-01-2019 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stubby79 (Post 610685)
Aren't you supposed to abandon a sinking ship, not jump on board one?

Maybe, its got better lifeboats.... like retirement packages, stock options..... maybe a hedge fund scheme.......

euromodder 11-04-2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 610612)
Considering that FCA and PSA had its partnership in the van segment downsized, so nowadays the mid-size Euro van in the Fiat range is not based on the same project that resulted on the Peugeot Expert among other variants, a merge with PSA would sound quite surprising to me.

It's going ahead

The van-business is going to be strange
Fiat HAD teamed up with PSA before for vans (small, mid-size and large)
Then FC ditched PSA and went with Opel
Opel went to PSA
Now the rest of FC is following suit ... :eek:

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-17-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by euromodder (Post 610954)
Fiat HAD teamed up with PSA before for vans (small, mid-size and large)

I remember, even though most of the van offering from Fiat in Brazil had been concentrated in the Fiorino (which also led to the development of a different 3rd generation for our regional market), Doblò (2nd generation never came to Brazil, even though it's available in other regional markets) and Ducato. OTOH the mid-size ones had been easily available in Argentina and Uruguay through Peugeot and Citroën. The 3rd-generation European Fiorino and its PSA rebadges are also not unheard of, even though the only Peugeot Bipper I've ever seen had Chilean plates.


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