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ChopStix 10-20-2016 10:31 PM

Finally a VW Topic!
 
Alright I will start this thing off as we need a VW topic!


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http://www.motorstown.com/images/vol...-beetle-04.jpg
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...2/bugpanel.jpg

LittleBlackDuck 10-20-2016 10:58 PM

This topic is really bugging me...

Simon

ChopStix 02-03-2017 04:22 AM

http://www.ratrodnation.com/forum/in...ch=40028;image

ThermionicScott 02-03-2017 01:00 PM

I think I might be the only stock VW fan here. :D

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...n80/pic1-1.jpg

Phantom 02-06-2017 09:21 AM

I love my VWs (TDI) but I do not like the Bugs.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 02-06-2017 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 533584)
I think I might be the only stock VW fan here

No. I also like stock ones more than some mods. Though if I were going to get one as a daily-driver I wouldn't object to some resto-mod in order to keep it up with modern levels of performance and fuel-efficiency but trying to keep the look as close to stock as possible.

SoobieOut 02-06-2017 10:58 PM

Went to the Barrett Jackson car auction this year. A few good VW's for sale but this was over the top!!

1965 VOLKSWAGEN TYPE II 21-WINDOW DELUXE BUS - 200656

ThermionicScott 02-06-2017 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 533852)
No. I also like stock ones more than some mods. Though if I were going to get one as a daily-driver I wouldn't object to some resto-mod in order to keep it up with modern levels of performance and fuel-efficiency but trying to keep the look as close to stock as possible.

:)

I've thought recently that if I could lash together a closed-loop EFI system that wasn't too obtrusive, that would be cool. And I think we're all believers in oil filters by now. But apart from that, I just love the look and feel of these cars as they were in the mid-60s.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 02-07-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 533862)
I've thought recently that if I could lash together a closed-loop EFI system that wasn't too obtrusive, that would be cool. And I think we're all believers in oil filters by now.

What do you mean by closed-loop? Something like a TBI or the fumigation system used with gaseous fuels? Anyway, even though the old screen-type oil filter had been not so bad at all due to its low cost and long life, now a bypass oil filter is the rule in a good resto-mod.

ThermionicScott 02-07-2017 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 533946)
What do you mean by closed-loop? Something like a TBI or the fumigation system used with gaseous fuels? Anyway, even though the old screen-type oil filter had been not so bad at all due to its low cost and long life, now a bypass oil filter is the rule in a good resto-mod.

Just something with an oxygen sensor. If memory serves, none of the early stock VW systems had one.

Xist 02-08-2017 03:09 AM

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Who knows just enough Photoshop to get in trouble? May I present my Windows Paint skills? :D

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1486541331

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 02-09-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 533956)
Just something with an oxygen sensor. If memory serves, none of the early stock VW systems had one.

When it comes to CNG conversions, some folks refer to a single-point injection setup as "closed loop" and to multi-point injection as "positive pressure". Anyway, I'm not so used to those older EFI setups, but oxygen sensors were not so common at least until mid-'80s.

ThermionicScott 02-09-2017 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 534055)
When it comes to CNG conversions, some folks refer to a single-point injection setup as "closed loop" and to multi-point injection as "positive pressure". Anyway, I'm not so used to those older EFI setups, but oxygen sensors were not so common at least until mid-'80s.

Ah, that's interesting.

ChopStix 04-05-2017 07:41 PM

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cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 04-05-2017 08:03 PM

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Not even my dog would feel comfortable inside it. :mad:

ChopStix 04-05-2017 11:29 PM

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Not even my dog would feel comfortable inside it. :mad:

I'm surprised that they didn't make a roof hatch to get in/out. Weld up the doors and climb in through the lid! :thumbup:

ChopStix 04-06-2017 03:16 PM

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cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 04-06-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopStix (Post 537783)
I'm surprised that they didn't make a roof hatch to get in/out. Weld up the doors and climb in through the lid! :thumbup:

Would still be weird-looking, and mostly useless in rainy days :D

ChopStix 04-07-2017 09:02 PM

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ChopStix 04-08-2017 03:08 PM

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Interesting "hauler", but I bet the purists out there are having a fit over chopping up 2 to make 1. But there's respectable metal work and a lot of time spent, so thumbs up for creativity.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1491678504

ChopStix 04-09-2017 09:15 PM

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When I think snow plowing, I think of one of these! :eek:


http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1786881http://

freebeard 04-09-2017 11:56 PM

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...I bet the purists out there ...
They're bay windows!

On the Woodruff Special, there is a video of him getting in: Hands and knees, head first, get your butt over the seat, roll 180°, and then swing your feet in. Not a grocery getter. :)

I'm down to my last two. The Superbeetle is very close to stock:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...9-100-0381.jpg

Shantung Gold paint (mostly). Adjustable Macpherson struts with the stock spring rate, stock width 165/50-15 tires (same height as a 145), carb downsized from a 34PICT to a 32 PICT, Perlux Ignitor on an 009 (Hall effect — no points or plugs). 40-liter range extender and Stainless steel stress bar:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...3-100-0884.jpg

LED headlights with aluminum tape 'eyebrows.'

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...6-100-0918.jpg

And the wheels I want to powder-coat before they go on, OEM Marathon/Jubilees:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...7-100-0920.jpg

The 58 is a Canadian — big back window and semaphore pockets. but the build plate on the front apron was Baja'd away.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...0-100-0632.jpg
http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...9-100-0629.jpg

The aerodynamic lofting was removed and it's now waiting for a Lexus drivetrain. :thumbup:

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 04-10-2017 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopStix (Post 538117)
When I think snow plowing, I think of one of these! :eek:


http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1786881http://

That's a Fiat 126

freebeard 04-10-2017 12:33 AM

When I think of mowing lawn, I think of one of these:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...314-276566.jpg

Best VW might be the Swedish military obervation bus:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...55-800x600.jpg

O'course, it's hard to beat a black convertible.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...7-dsc02110.jpg

ChopStix 04-10-2017 02:10 AM

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That's a Fiat 126

My mistake, I thought it was a cut down Rabbit.


http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1491804676

More power, smaller size!

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Fingie 04-10-2017 04:10 AM

our family had a fiat 126.

Sadly, all have been lost to low-class rallying here, Like the fiat 600.

freebeard 04-10-2017 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
That's a Fiat 126

I would have guessed some little Beetle-engined econobox from South America; Gogol or whatever.

So I spent the morning looking though Jason Torchinsky's posts on Jalopnik; when I should have concentrated on inventing new search terms. Anywho, Here's some of the things I found:

Jalopnik: These Design Studies For The Volkswagen Microbus Will Make Your Brain Hurt

The Most Beautiful Car You've Never Heard Of: The Tatra JK 2500

The Forgotten Beetle Four-Door Sedan That Volkswagen Never Made

The CIA Built Special Trench-Digging Volkswagen Beetles To Spy On The Soviets

The True Story Behind This Mysterious Mutant VW Beetle

This Fascinating Stillborn VW Prototype Would Have Been Revolutionary

These Communist Mid-Engined Prototypes Are Absolute Genius

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...obfurnhnl0.png
A couple of commie chicks in their commie sports car.

Maybe it's Gurgel? No they were front-engined:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...8cboouyjpg.jpg
Gurgel May Be The Weirdest Car Company Ever

ChopStix 04-10-2017 11:31 PM

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There's some amazing links in that post Freebeard!


http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1491881457
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freebeard 04-11-2017 04:07 AM

I've been waiting for someone else to post. Thanks! I like the Beetle because it is modular. the Body, floorpan, [front and rear subframes in Type III], and drivetrain are separable. For the floorpan, I favor Inrekor:

SAE International -- mobility engineering

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/ima...al-24430_1.jpg
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/i...ial-24430.html

It's like Polymetal on steroids or something. Notice the A-arm front suspension and the rear trailing arms with coil springs. Compare to the stock upright shock and shock mounts. This would open up the interior space a lot.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...image-1871.jpg

This was introduced to Ecomodder by Giovanni LiCalsi at http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post406215

You can compare to full suspensions from http://www.coolrydescustoms.com/mendeola-products.html at (last I heard) $7K for front and rear.

ChopStix 04-11-2017 08:58 PM

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This pic screams "I'm getting good MPG!!!...." -lol

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1491980520

freebeard 04-12-2017 01:58 PM

The flag says VW, but the V8 says Tatra. ;)

One of my all-time favorites. I know the guy. He posts on thesamba. He used to delivery chicken eggs to the place I worked in it.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...9-100-0138.jpg

Surf's Up!

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...394-514568.jpg

ChopStix 04-12-2017 11:31 PM

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I put picture's of that Tiki Bug on here last year. Its pretty awesome except I don't like the surf board on the side. Surf boards are a bit too Socal for me. But I like the Tiki theme otherwise.

What do you know about all these tank bugs?

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1492054331
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freebeard 04-13-2017 02:49 AM

For me, it's like putting a big-block Chevy in the front. Most of the charm goes away. Here's a Messerschmitt I like better

http://i.imgur.com/wkxMysx.jpg

Here's a concept and proof that it's buildable

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...945-veyron.jpg
http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...3-p1010010.jpg

ChopStix 04-13-2017 06:21 AM

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Forget Gas Mileage, these pics are all about air cooled HP!

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1492078735
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freebeard 04-13-2017 06:44 PM

The one with the red and black paint and LED tail lights is sorta nifty. :thumbup:

http://i.imgur.com/JU9RL.jpg

Note the exhaust in front of the rear tire. There's room for twin turbos in there.

ChopStix 04-13-2017 10:42 PM

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I love those bug-pickups, but its a shame there's not room in the bed to actually haul stuff or else I would own one. The same goes for the lack of aftermarket support for overdrive transmissions. A 6 spd swap would be sweet!


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freebeard 04-14-2017 12:35 AM

I'd go with a Type III cooling system and a side-draft dual-choke Weber carb or EFI throttle body; under a flat bed.

I liked the 5-speed conversion I got in the 90s. With 185-60s, it shifted up into 5th at 85mph. But driving around town, there are two gears to choose from instead of one. Unfortunately, the 2nd gear syncro problems have persisted through the conversion and a rebuild. If it goes back into something, I'll just live with the 3-2 downshift.

You started the thread with a brown Beetle/Squareback hybrid. Maybe it's worth pointing out that the BGW fiberglass panel conversion has ideal aerodynamics, as I determined with the experiment I showed in Permalink #22:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...1395624625.jpg

It smoothly continues the taper of the body. An added 3ft boat tail would be perfection.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...-untitled2.png

ChopStix 04-14-2017 06:50 AM

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Actually I already have my next project car and unfortunately its not a VW. But I've been keeping it on the down low as I'm not ready to start on it yet. However I REALLY like those beetle conversion bodies. I would own/drive one daily.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1492166795
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cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 04-14-2017 08:08 PM

Up
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Yjo14nfUQ...ro-direito.jpg


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Originally Posted by ChopStix (Post 538145)

Sometimes I still consider to do a similar project, but I would rather get either a Kombi or a 4-door Brasília to fit a V-Twin into. Would also not disconsider to use a liquid-cooled engine sourced from some Japanese motorcycle instead of a Harley-Davidson boat anchor.


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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 538198)
I would have guessed some little Beetle-engined econobox from South America; Gogol or whatever.

The Gol had always been front-engined, even the earlier air-cooled BX.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V_gNdO9W1O.../Photo6261.jpg


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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 538198)
Maybe it's Gurgel? No they were front-engined:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...8cboouyjpg.jpg

I'm not sure about the BR-800 and its derivatives ever being exported, but anyway, there were some earlier rear-engined Gurgel utility vehicles and also a small coupé, all based on the Beetle driveline. Then came the Carajás SUV still based on Volkswagen mechanical components which was the first front-engined Gurgel, culminating with the BR-800 econobox as a "technological independence" milestone as the late João Augusto Conrado do Amaral Gurgel used to say.

Here's a Gurgel X-12 that I spotted last year near my mom's apartment
http://cdn.automovelbrasil.com/800/2...846c0f7e75.jpg

Carajás 2-door SWB, it retained the rear-mounted transaxle but the engine was now a front-mounted VW EA827
http://cdn.automovelbrasil.com/800/2...ddbf17ea20.jpg

Gurgel Supermini, a slightly-improved version of the BR-800
http://cdn.automovelbrasil.com/800/2...75bad8b7f8.jpg


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