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Ford F150 - 25% drag reduction
Hi everyone,
using a 3D scan of the Ford F150 and a bunch of aerodynamic simulations, we demonstrated how the aerodynamic drag of a Ford F150 can be reduced by 25% - see this link: youtube.com/watch?v=E0ass_AxloM Of course, the suggested solutions can compromise the design & practicality. Nevertheless, it's interesting to see how the Cybertruck for example is leaning towards a similar "base profile" which allows for good pressure recovery (but it's sharp edges may be a problem). Looking forward to your comments! |
'Cd 0.463'
Member AeroStealth owns a 2014 Ford F-150 Eco-Boost, Crew Cab, 6.5-foot bed,4X4 pickup.
Ford Motor Company published Cd 0.404 for this pickup. AeroStealth purchased member Bondo's ( Brett Herndon ) Aerolid and Aerotail, both wind tunnel tested, courtesy of the Ford Motor Company. With the two modifications, the F-150 was reduced to Cd 0.306. A 24.25% drag reduction. While Ford Motor has never published an official drag coefficient for the current F-150, it seems unlikely that it's drag coefficient has 'increased' by 14.6% since 2014. In his Master's Thesis of 2011 at Chalmers University, Martin Olsson reported that the Lattice Boltzmann Method ( LBM ) CFD used, produced a 13% discrepancy between wind tunnel tests of the same model. Does AirShaper employ LMB? |
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Great place to discuss real improvements / real gains in terms of aerodynamics - cool community! |
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Hi Aerohead, no, we use a finite volume method: this has been the default method for decades, although I do believe LBM could be (one of) the winning methods for the future. Regarding drag values: without discrediting the manufacurers, the claimed values are usually fairly optimistic (as they sometimes play with ride heights, rims, aircon settings, etc during testing). We performed an independent validation on a Tesla Model Y together with one of our partners - our Cd value was less than 6% off compared to the measured value. And qualitative data (the flow structure behind the car) also showed good correlation: airshaper.com/blog/tesla-model-y-aerodynamic-benchmarking I would agree drag hasn't increased by 14%, so it's likely more a matter of comparing the right data here. Data coming from different sources and/or different measuring techniques (tunnel vs simulation) can blur the whole story. |
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I look forward to where the conversation goes. |
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Where to start?
Does or could Airshaper benefit from OpenVDB? I think it and an AI interface like Stable Diffusion as a front end show the most promise. |
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