" Grille " versus " Grill "
 

So have I been spelling it wrong, or is the opening on the front of my car actually called a " grill " ?

I thought it was " grille ", but I see it both ways, and I honestly have been in doubt - sometimes even going back and writing 'grill' in place of "grille"

Wikipedia seems confusing as well :

" A grille or grill (French word from Latin craticula, small grill) is an opening of several slits side by side in a wall or metal sheet or other barrier, usually to let air or water enter and/or leave but keep larger objects including people and animals in or out. "

:D

As far as I know, both are perfectly correct.

Wiktionary seems to agree: grille - Wiktionary

It's grille.

Spell it wrong and meet your banhammer fate.

Grille I always thought it went with the bonnet, boot, drop head coupe, spanner crowd :)

You'd think I'd prefer "grill" ... fewer letters is more economical after all. :D

Don't grille me... Grill my grille!

:eek:

If it is grille, then why isn't it hille, or bille, or gille, or pille, or dille, or spille?

I'd never seen it spelled "grille" in my life until I found EcoModder. It just looks so wrong! lol.
I'm sticking with "Grill". I'm stubborn. lol.

My guess is that historically it is 'grille', but Americans have a tendency to drop letters, whether this is because of laziness, modernization of the language, or to differentiate themselves from their British origins, I do not know. Examples:

• color instead of colour,
• aluminum instead of aluminium,
• filet instead of fillet,
• program instead of programme,
• BBQ instead of barbecue,
• W instead of George W. Bush,
• etc.

Ever since the difference in spelling between 'grille' and 'grill' caught my attention, I have been using 'grille' since it seems to have more in common with automotive terminology and is less likely to be confused with a barbecue grill.

I always thought grille was on a car and grill is what you cook on.

however I cook on my engine, so it gets confusing.......

Everyone else=one way
USA=another way

IE the metric system. Why would you want to do something that makes sense when you can be dumb.

Ah, but that neglects the Brits attempts to get everyone to drive on the wrong side of the road. All of Europe (except one small island) and the Americas got it right, but everywhere the Brits invaded, they got it wrong. Utter lunacy.:D



*all in good fun...Ok, and a bit of revenge after nearly getting killed the last time I stepped out onto a street after visiting a pub and looking for traffic coming from the wrong direction. Cheeky git nearly got me.:rolleyes:

I have too. Well, I've reheated stuff (pizza! in tin foil... I mean aluminium foil).

But if you're cooking on your engine, it's spelled engin. :)

BTW: Dictionary.com seems to prefer grille for automobiles, and grill for cooking.

Grille | Define Grille at Dictionary.com
Grill | Define Grill at Dictionary.com

Errrm, but I'm about to go eat lunch at City Grille... this is all so very confusing.

There is no such language as "English." We speak American, people living in England speak British, and the Aussies speak Australian. People from Canadia speak Canadian.

Hey, my own President thinks that residents of Austria speak Austrian, so there ya go...

I guess that Austrian does differ somewhat from German (in fact, there are different dialects within Germany). Also, Spanish Spanish isn't the same as Mexican Spanish. Or Portugese and Brazilian.

Oh, and since we're speaking (pun intended) of Latin America and Presidents...
Vice-President Al Gore: "I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people."

Grill
http://www.stcloudstate.edu/atwood/images/grill.jpg
Grille
http://www.wooddashexperts.com/image...rille1_cat.jpg
All up in my grill?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_O7ca2_YM3v...400/Grillz.jpg

Ha! Where's the LOL button?

That's roadkill you're eating there...:thumbup:

While we're at it, might as well through 'colour' and 'humour' on the grill(e) as well..... :)

As an ecomodder, I use the shorter spellings. Each key not pressed is extending the life of my keyboard, reducing CPU load (saves power), and reducing the amount of data required to submit my post.

Or maybe I'm just lazy...

I think grill is also a verb.

Nothing to worry about. We have different things like bell and belle and nobody suggests one is wrong or more American, they are just different.

It's grille. I guess it's an ecomodder induced language deformation that I have been using grille to describe all frameworks of parallel bars blocking an opening. I was once strolling around in DC and asked a guard a question about the "grille" surrounding the white house. After repeating the word 2 or 3 times in my thick french accent, I got "it's called a fence" as an answer. I smiled, thinking "whatever", and went on my way.

Well of course you Francophones will vote for the version with the silent 'e' :p
Google Translate says that grille is spelled the same in both French and English:

That's the spelling I use. Webster's says both are OK, grille being preferred. Besides we can't say what a spelling "is", because these are just representative spellings not ontological assertions. If I spell the thing "wxyz" and somebody knows in advance I intend this wxyz spelling to refers such parallel bars, then such a spelling, however unpopular, was still succesful. Mathematicians are wise to call things X when they can get away with it. That is all that seems to matter.

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You're not a mathematician, are you? (I am)

Speking of mathematicians naming things however they please, I remember when one of my teachers said "OK, let's use this equation in an example with actual numbers, like a, b, and c."
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Yes, as much as possible. That variable/constant distinction is great. Or better when one says "R is a binary relation" or "H is an operator". Even without letters, "constants" such as 0 seem pretty arbitrary. Now I learn the number 0 is just another name for the empty set because of von Neumann ordinals.

Speaking about math, I need to rant a bit.

How I hate it when I encounter equations in papers and I have to search through all the pages for the definitions of whatever they used to represent members of the equation. What makes it worse is that each field has its own "standards", meaning that G in this field of research is commonly used to represent that and G in that other field is this, and all this is "common knowledge" within the field.

I guess not making things easy to outsiders of a field is a way to keep the elite status associated with the field of research. It seems like authors only think they're going to be read by their direct peers. Anyway, enough for the rant and long live the people who can dumb things down for me.

Tas, the problem with scientific papers is that as they get more and more advanced, you need more and more background to understand them. When someone publishes their research, they define every new term, and often a few which are in earlier papers on the subject, plus citations to helpful sources. If they were to define everything from the ground up, then the "paper" would be a multivolume brick.

So yes, it is a pain when just the paper isn't enough to understand what's going on. But it is more efficient than rewriting the history of that whole branch of science each time someone slightly changes a single equation or gives a new proof of something-or-other. It's a compromise.

Oftentimes the information is mostly in the paper, but just scattered. A simple lexicon page in every paper with A is this and B is that would make things so much simpler for everyone.

A lot of master or doctoral thesis I've read have those, it's really handy for outsiders to quickly reference variables and cross reference the equations between fields of study.

We have Japan on our side though.
I recall Ireland's attempt to change from driving on the left to driving on the right a few years back... The plan was to stagger the new system's instroduction, so for one week, trucks, buses and other commercial vehicles would switch over, and the following week, private cars and all other traffic would switch. :)

Auto Grille Pros
 

Well, as per grammar experts, grill mostly refers to a cooking surface, which is formed of parallel metal bars whereas, the word grille, refers mainly to a grating being used as a barrier or screen on the front end of a vehicle. However, for auto enthusiasts the picture is different. They do not stress much on the spelling and use both the words for addressing the front end cover protecting the engine of a vehicle.

Grill o.o.

Rwar.

What about the silent e making the "I" long sounding like Gr-EYE-lle in merikan speak? If we are going to spell it all French why don't we just throw five or six extra vowels on the end of it and call it good:thumbup: If we do it German style, then it would be pronounced grill-eh in what ever dialect you want if you have the e at the end, right?

Possibly A, B and C? Those are perfectly cromulent in hexadecimal, being equivalent to 10, 11 and 12 in decimal.

Griehllue.

You know you're an ecomodder when...
... You are writing to some friends and each time you want to write "barbeque grill" it comes out with an 'e' at the end.

Too much time on this forum, not enough time socializing with normal people... ;)

But why on Earth would you want to socialize with normal people? Terminal boredom.

Barbecue... can you imagine the emissions?

I can smell when my neighbors have a BBQ from around 400 - 500 feet away. The smell gives me a headache, and makes me wonder how it is that people think that using lighter fluid is a good thing.
The stuff is poison, and you are going to eat something cooked with that ??