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tuanhuylink 06-03-2017 04:18 AM

Harley people rant!
 
Is it me or am I just getting old.

But why do Harley people have to rev their engines when coming to a stop.

We know your engines are not efficient just by way they run and sound why do they have to make even more annoying?

Thank God my passenger side electric window works. LOL

Frank Lee 06-03-2017 06:07 AM

Epileptic wrist seizures. Can there be any other explanation?

sendler 06-03-2017 07:40 AM

Many motorcyclists believe that match revving and down shifting through each gear as they slow down is crucial for proper riding technique. I was berated on the CBR250R site when I tried to tell them to do the same thing with the shifter but just don't bother with the throttle blipping and clutch letting until if and when it comes time to accelerate again. But they like the noise. rrr, rrr, rrr, rrrrrrr. Look at me. I'm sooo cool. Some kind of sound therapy I guess. Too bad the cruiser riders will all go deaf from riding in half lids with no hearing protection.

Daox 06-03-2017 11:30 AM

Tell me about it... I live in the heart of Harley land, Milwaukee Wisconsin. They're everywhere, and the vast majority have annoyingly loud exhaust systems to boot.

Stubby79 06-03-2017 11:36 AM

Attention-seekers, compensating for lacking certain things.

rmay635703 06-03-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Daox (Post 541773)
Tell me about it... I live in the heart of Harley land, Milwaukee Wisconsin. They're everywhere, and the vast majority have annoyingly loud exhaust systems to boot.

System is a stretch, most have a straight pipe

My experience is that the throttle continues "blipping" while the thing is stationary as well.

My frustration was I had an old Buick and the giant muffler rusted off on the highway, couldn't find it, car had a resonator and cat, without a muffler I was around 75db well below the legal limit, put on a cheap muffler then brought it in for some basic R&R at the local Cooter and a cop decided to examine my car and forced me to buy a very expensive OEM muffler.

I wish I could sue the dbag.

My car was quiet but yet I'm fined and Harley's can run straight pipes blasted out the neighborhood without any issue.

jamesqf 06-03-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 541782)
My experience is that the throttle continues "blipping" while the thing is stationary as well.

Because the things are so poorly built and/or tuned that they'll stall if you don't do that?

freebeard 06-03-2017 01:44 PM

Agreed. I do the same thing with my Beetle, but it not so much to keep it from stalling as it is me trying to convince myself it hasn't died.

Frank Lee 06-03-2017 04:35 PM

Get a tach.

redpoint5 06-03-2017 05:16 PM

There was a prison guard that got off work at midnight and would fast idle his straight-pipe Harley for 10 minutes before tearing off into the night. Even a mile away the noise was obnoxiously loud. Bold move for a guy that often works alone in a wing of 110 convicts.

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 541789)
Agreed. I do the same thing with my Beetle, but it not so much to keep it from stalling as it is me trying to convince myself it hasn't died.

Beetles have a subtle but unique and satisfying exhaust note. I don't think many would consider it to be noise pollution.

freebeard 06-03-2017 07:34 PM

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Get a tach.
Actually, I want to get one now, as a learning aid. I think diesels like lugging at wide open throttle, while the boxer four is more rev happy.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-03-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stubby79 (Post 541775)
Attention-seekers, compensating for lacking certain things.

Harley buyers are usually not looking for a motorcycle, otherwise they would most likely get something technically superior from other manufacturers. All they usually want is to look like a so-called "one-percenter".

Frank Lee 06-03-2017 10:00 PM

They're all unique and rugged "individuals", wearing the same costumes and riding the same junk.

freebeard 06-03-2017 11:19 PM

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All they usually want is to look like a so-called "one-percenter".
Bought to you by the letter 'M'?

The 1% of the 1% (of the 1%), Ed Roth's shaft drive X-A frame with a flat-four boxer out of some furrin car.

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...1429981333857/
American Pickers

What is it, two years since the Waco Biker Massacre?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-04-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 541830)
Bought to you by the letter 'M'?

Since I'm not a native speaker of English, sometimes I don't understand the references :confused:

ChopStix 06-04-2017 09:33 PM

Not to hjack, but...
If there's any Harley people on here who are looking for a Harley Davidson Tiller Steering Golf Cart, shoot me a PM. I'll sell it cheap!

freebeard 06-05-2017 12:48 AM

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ChopStix — I saw one of those once. It would make a great EV conversion.

https://www.vintagegolfcartparts.com...e/82Harley.jpg
https://www.vintagegolfcartparts.com/Category/harley_davidson

There're parts available and everything.

ChopStix 06-05-2017 01:48 AM

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But why do Harley people have to rev their engines when coming to a stop.
The Harley people around where I live rev their engines anytime they get a chance, not just stopping. Its just their culture and way of doing things. Example - I was working on a antique tractor one day, and the Harley guy across town had to go outside and start/rev his Harley just because he heard our tractor revving while I was adjusting the updraft carb. They're just nuts! -lol

@freebeard, Mine has the stock 2 stroke engine, and is older than your picture. I would never convert it to anything. I think I got it as part of a trade like 15 years ago. But I never had a plan to do anything with it. Its just been in my garage for years collecting dust...

redpoint5 06-05-2017 11:27 AM

To be fair, I hear a lot of rev-happy idiots on crotch rockets (sport bikes) too. The most annoying thing is to hear them cruising around in 2nd gear, making a ton of noise instead of getting good fuel economy. I'll go all the way to 6th gear at 35 MPH when I'm at a steady cruising speed. These bikes are geared very low.

Harley riders sometimes ask me when I'm going to get a real bike. My reply is "you mean real affordable, real reliable, real fast, and real smooth?"

I've got nothing against Harley riders in particular; people like what they like. The idiots that want to be loud just to get attention exist everywhere in society. In motorcycle culture, they attempt to justify the noise by saying "loud pipes save lives". I'm not so sure that is true, and being a vigilant and competent rider is much more important than expecting everyone to hear you and avoid.

Fat Charlie 06-05-2017 12:53 PM

I always assumed it was a cry for help.

The blips can't be actual downshifting- the number of blips across the amount of speed they're losing would suggest ridiculously low and close gearing. Wait, that might explain their top speed...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...c226a29972.jpg

ThermionicScott 06-05-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 541786)
Because the things are so poorly built and/or tuned that they'll stall if you don't do that?

That's what I've always chalked it up to. And even when they're on a decent-running bike, they keep doing it out of nervous habit.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-06-2017 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 541927)
To be fair, I hear a lot of rev-happy idiots on crotch rockets (sport bikes) too.

Regardless of what they ride, there will always be a rev-happy scumbag. I see them on nearly every type of motorcycle, from a no-frills Honda CG 125 to some random crotch-rocket.

jamesqf 06-06-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 541927)
The idiots that want to be loud just to get attention exist everywhere in society.

Sure, like diesel pickups, older Japanese cars with "fart can" exhausts, or the guy down the road that has a '70s V8 hot rod with no effective muffler. Just making loud noise to conceal their own inadequacy.

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
Regardless of what they ride, there will always be a rev-happy scumbag.

Well, they can be as rev happy as they like, as long as they put a decent muffler on the thing.

ChopStix 06-06-2017 04:27 PM

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Sure, like diesel pickups, older Japanese cars with "fart can" exhausts, or the guy down the road that has a '70s V8 hot rod with no effective muffler. Just making loud noise to conceal their own inadequacy.
I suppose technically you could include the drivers of trains into this as well. They are always blowing the dam horn at all hours of the day/night. Yes its the law for them to do so at every crossing. But they are constantly speeding through my town, so its more of a constant horn blast racing by over short beeps at crossings.

Frank Lee 06-06-2017 07:05 PM

You can sure tell the difference between train engineers; at 4 am one will give a furtive little toot at crossing approach as legally required while another psychopath- no doubt a Hardley Ableson rider on his time off- lays on the horn all the way through town.

ChopStix 06-06-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 542104)
You can sure tell the difference between train engineers; at 4 am one will give a furtive little toot at crossing approach as legally required while another psychopath- no doubt a Hardley Ableson rider on his time off- lays on the horn all the way through town.

The difference that we have is the 80 mph coal trains (horns blasting) while driving through a town with a speed limit of 30. Its law that they are required to do the city's speed limit. Though they almost never do.... Every 10 years or so they tag a truck/car and derail. Then they slow down for a month before going back to racing through town. Most recently they killed a dump truck driver and dumped 30 something coal cars. They're a bunch of savages! Just like the bikers and street racers.

(need to change the topic name to - old guy rant! "Hey you kids stay off my lawn!" -lol)

freebeard 06-06-2017 08:58 PM

So we've gone from one murdersickle to rolling coal trains rolling coal? :eek:

slowmover 06-07-2017 02:33 PM

Big trucks with straight pipes. Assholes. I'm happy to tell them so.

When one sees "No Engine Brake" signs, they're responsible

Sign should read that with "Unmuffled" inserted.

My 425HP Cummins is quiet enough that I use the Jacobs brake wherever and whenever I choose. And will outpull most of those rolling junkers.

redpoint5 06-07-2017 05:39 PM

I've got a 1998.5 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins. It's the same engine used in school buses. No wonder kids used to run outside when I idled through the neighborhood at certain times of the morning. I wish it wasn't as loud as a garbage truck. Stock everything.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-08-2017 10:00 AM

Truck noise hasn't been so much of a nuisance to me lately. Actually, some motorcycles that roam around the block once in a while are noisier than the garbage truck that comes early in the morning.

jamesqf 06-08-2017 01:53 PM

Hereabouts the hydraulic bin lift on the garbage truck is noisier than the engine.

redneck 06-12-2017 07:28 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkqCmVXXbk4


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SH@UN 06-12-2017 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tuanhuylink (Post 541763)
Is it me or am I just getting old.

But why do Harley people have to rev their engines when coming to a stop.

We know your engines are not efficient just by way they run and sound why do they have to make even more annoying?

Thank God my passenger side electric window works. LOL

I totally agree. There are alot of douchebags on motorcycles who think because they are on 2 wheels, that they have the right to annoy everyone around them. I've ridden motorcycles my whole life, and the stock exhaust has always stayed on. I don't get it myself. What's so attractive about being a dick? They don't even sound good anyway, but whatever.

SH@UN 06-12-2017 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Miatafanatic77 (Post 542596)
Loud pipes save lives. LOL

This BS line is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just as many, if not more, loud bikes have been hit than quiet ones. People need to stop with the ignorant lines they use in order to justify being a butt. I've always ridden with quiet pipes, never been hit once. I know about a guy with a loud Vulcan that's​ been hit twice. People that believe the "loud pipes save lives" crap, are the same ones who must not have a very valuable brain, so they rant about helmet laws. Takes a kinds.

jcp123 06-13-2017 10:38 AM

I thought the loud pipes save lives thing was a bit overblown until I bought my Nightster. I noticed a lot of people almost changing lanes into me, etc. I won't say any of it really put me in a serious situation, but as soon as the bike got loud, that stuff stopped.

Frank Lee 06-13-2017 11:37 AM

I call B.S.

jamesqf 06-13-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SH@UN (Post 542680)
I know about a guy with a loud Vulcan that's​ been hit twice.

I've always wondered about that myself. I mean, how many of those get hit deliberately by people who just got pushed over the edge? Not to mention the startle factor, because even when you hear those pipes, it's often impossible to determine just where they're coming from.

SH@UN 06-13-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 542746)
I've always wondered about that myself. I mean, how many of those get hit deliberately by people who just got pushed over the edge?

Yep. :thumbup:

It may sound mean, but some of them deserve it. I'm sorry, but I have zero tolerance for people who purposefully try annoy the people around them. Same with the stupid stereo stuff.

sendler 06-13-2017 02:35 PM

From studying the discussions on various motorcycle forums. the majority of motorcycle wrecks are either self inflicted, or could have easily been prevented, by better awareness and more careful riding practices.

freebeard 06-13-2017 03:49 PM

The past prez of the Good Times VW club had a dune buggy with a dual cannon exhaust (they're ratty). He used to say "loud pipes save yadda", but then he started towing his teardrop trailer with it.

It was so loud that now he just says "What?"

/jk


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