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cleanspeed1 05-05-2011 09:15 PM

Has a diesel car done as well as the Aerocivic
 
Anyone put together a diesel based vehicle that has matched or bettered the Aerocivic?

I'm a diesel guy at heart, do own a Honda; maybe I need to be steered in the right direction.:thumbup:

Angmaar 05-05-2011 09:33 PM

VW has a 1L/100kM concept which would destroy the aerocivic. But no, there has been no home made aeroTDIs.

A properly geared diesel with the extreme aero modifications would easily get more MPG than the aerocivic.

Christ 05-05-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleanspeed1 (Post 236448)
Anyone put together a diesel based vehicle that has matched or bettered the Aerocivic?

I'm a diesel guy at heart, do own a Honda; maybe I need to be steered in the right direction.:thumbup:

Keep the honda, put in a TDI. Win.

I'm planning this with a Festiva if I end up buying it. It will be 50% win, 50% awesome, and 50% hell yeah.

A diesel 92 Festiva is allowed to have 150%. It's in the rules. Look it up.

cleanspeed1 05-05-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christ (Post 236458)
Keep the honda, put in a TDI. Win.

I'm planning this with a Festiva if I end up buying it. It will be 50% win, 50% awesome, and 50% hell yeah.

A diesel 92 Festiva is allowed to have 150%. It's in the rules. Look it up.

Checking swap rule book................

Yep, there it is......TDI Festiva deserves 150% :p

Christ 05-05-2011 11:18 PM

Told you it was in there...
Except mine would only get 130%... It would only be a TD... Still an IDI motor. :(

cleanspeed1 05-05-2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angmaar (Post 236450)
VW has a 1L/100kM concept which would destroy the aerocivic. But no, there has been no home made aeroTDIs.

A properly geared diesel with the extreme aero modifications would easily get more MPG than the aerocivic.

Ferdinand Piech can afford the concept, I know I can't. basjoos is a hero, big endorsement. I just thought someone here did what he did with my favorite engine.:D

cleanspeed1 05-05-2011 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christ (Post 236479)
Told you it was in there...
Except mine would only get 130%... It would only be a TD... Still an IDI motor. :(

You can get that 20% back with twin turbos and 100 mpg at 70 mph!

Piwoslaw 05-06-2011 02:36 AM

Actually, there is a diesel which comes very close: Groar's Megane. Here are the stats as of today:
Aerocivic LB:
  • EPA Rating (% over): 39 (79.2051%)
  • 90-day Fuel Economy: 69.89
  • 3-tank Fuel Economy: 71.79
Megane:
  • EPA Rating (% over): 35.1 (92.3647%)
  • 90-day Fuel Economy: 67.52
  • 3-tank Fuel Economy: 68.65
It should be noted that the Megane is not as heavily modded as the Aerocivic, and that Groar occasionally has to drive without any aeromods. A full AeroMegane could easily have triple-digit MPGs, beating MetroMPG's Blackfly. Unless Darin makes a permanent boattail.

JasonG 05-06-2011 07:59 AM

I am currently in search of a partially wrecked TDI to turn into a reverse trike with a full tail etc. I hope for 80+ MPG

basjoos 05-09-2011 08:19 PM

The Avion is an aeromodded diesel, although they designed the body from scratch rather than aeromodding an existing vehicle. It currently has the diesel from the diesel Smart Fourtwo in it and gets 80mpg at 70mph and 114mpg at 55mph. Its a smaller and lighter car than the Aerocivic with an aluminum chassis and seats 2 people. Their website is http://www.100mpgplus

cleanspeed1 05-09-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basjoos (Post 237233)
The Avion is an aeromodded diesel, although they designed the body from scratch rather than aeromodding an existing vehicle. It currently has the diesel from the diesel Smart Fourtwo in it and gets 80mpg at 70mph and 114mpg at 55mph. Its a smaller and lighter car than the Aerocivic with an aluminum chassis and seats 2 people. Their website is http://www.100mpgplus

Link is not working for some reason.

I think the Avion might be a bit small, cool car though.

I like the idea of doing what you and others did with existing equipment.

Hey, what can I say, I'm addicted to diesel and completely incureable.:thumbup:

redpoint5 05-09-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basjoos (Post 237233)
The Avion is an aeromodded diesel, although they designed the body from scratch rather than aeromodding an existing vehicle. It currently has the diesel from the diesel Smart Fourtwo in it and gets 80mpg at 70mph and 114mpg at 55mph. Its a smaller and lighter car than the Aerocivic with an aluminum chassis and seats 2 people. Their website is http://www.100mpgplus

Add a dotcom to the end of the url to see the page. The car reminds me of a futuristic General Lee.

comptiger5000 05-10-2011 01:17 PM

The TDI swapped Saturn on here is in the 60s, IIRC, and he's not done with the aeromods. I don't think it's got a tail, either.

jtbo 05-10-2011 01:41 PM

Well, my best is 67mpg, but it takes few tanks to get a true trend, also I have still some mods to be made and old ones need improving too.

With bit more mods, I think that I could beat that 70mpg, but I doubt that 100mpg will be possible at all, not with this motor, more modern HDi motor would drink lot less and with that 100mpg would be possible, but with our laws such swap would be really a PITA, also car is going to be scrapped in a year as bodyshell is rusted and gearbox is shot.

With such great mods as there are in aerocivic, it should be possible to get lot better FE as my mods are not too great quality in aero terms, so there is room for improvement, I have not beaten even 70mpg and I have quite lot of visible mods.

euromodder 05-10-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleanspeed1 (Post 236448)
Anyone put together a diesel based vehicle that has matched or bettered the Aerocivic?

Quite a few VW Lupo 3L / Audi A2 3L have done better than Mike's current 70mpg 90-day average.

Overview: Volkswagen - Lupo 3L - Spritmonitor.de
The entire first page of results, beat 70mpg average ! :thumbup:

Best result of someone on that list, is a record tank of 2.32 L/100km - that's 101.4 mpg (US) over 500 miles.

The best lifetime average is 90mpg !
http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/detail/205984.html


Similar results with the Audi A2 3L and an even better record tank :
Overview: Audi - A2 3L - Spritmonitor.de

Best tank : 2.26L/100km over 500 miles, or 104mpg (US).



The Avion link :
http://www.100mpgplus.com/

cleanspeed1 05-10-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euromodder (Post 237363)
Quite a few VW Lupo 3L / Audi A2 3L have done better than Mike's current 70mpg 90-day average.

Overview: Volkswagen - Lupo 3L - Spritmonitor.de
The entire first page of results, beat 70mpg average ! :thumbup:

Best result of someone on that list, is a record tank of 2.32 L/100km - that's 101.4 mpg (US) over 500 miles.

The best lifetime average is 90mpg !
Details: Volkswagen - Lupo 3L - Lupo 2L 1.2 TDI - Spritmonitor.de


Similar results with the Audi A2 3L and an even better record tank :
Overview: Audi - A2 3L - Spritmonitor.de

Best tank : 2.26L/100km over 500 miles, or 104mpg (US).



The Avion link :
Fuel Economy over 100 miles per gallon - Avion

I guess if we could get the good stuff like you guys overseas, it'd make my job a lot easier. Is it possible to get the 1.2 TDI engine imported into the States?


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