HP2g 110mpg Hybrid Engine Patent Issued !
 

HP2g Patent Issued !
NOTICE: United States / International Patent # 8616175 Issued December 31, 2013 International Utility Patent INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE AND METHOD OF OPERATING SAME
The engine has been EPA TESTED and Exceeds 2016 EPA emissions standards by 66% LESS

OFFS :rolleyes:

Oh boy, sitting here with my cup of tea waiting for Frank to play with Doug.

regards
Mech

And he finally found out that the patent issued? It's old news: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ang-19694.html

I thought the patent wasn't his anymore anyway; it had been used as collateral for a loan from the county.

I looked it up. It's completely his, not assigned to anybody.

w w w dot google dot com/patents/US8616175

and w w w dot google dot com/patents/US7258094

So?

"you want fries with that":rolleyes:

I read some of the documentation around US8616175. The language is remarkably obtuse, are all patents written that way?

If anyone is so inclined, you can completely circumvent his patent protection by applying the "technology" to a single-cylinder engine, which type is specifically excluded by the patent's wording.

It looks like a different way of applying hybrid drive to a vehicle, mostly by stuffing the hybrid bits completely inside the block. Okay, that's a little interesting but not exactly earth shattering.

He got banned for blowing his horn last time, you'd think he might get the hint.

Who needs an engine block, especially if it's warping like crazy.
Look Ma no block.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BQwBGKxShk

regards
Mech

Yes. What people don't often realize is that Patents do NOT have to be either FUNCTIONAL or PHYSICALLY realizable...they ONLY have to be FULLY described (verboise), in legalease terms.

Dang! Its almost like Frank gets a bat signal when doug posts! Excellent response time.

My ear was itching...

Frank's got a military grade BS detector.

So it's way overpriced and only works half the time??

No, it's just constantly beeping.

How can you tell when higher is BSing you?

OK after reading DP's patent US8616175 I have a question???

I'm not good at reading legal terms, but what part of his patent is protected?

He has a ton of descriptions of products that are already produced and sold that he writes about in his patent????

IMHO I believe his inventions is just a bunch of "smoke and mirrors" but after reading his patent there is so much smoke I can't see the mirrors? lol

Lol. Ah, this thread should be amusing. Subscribed.

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Very true. Pelmear's patent describes a system that, at its very best, would take more power than a normal alternator can deliver to barely rotate the engine. He never built it. Or if he built it, it never delivered useful power.

And the stuff in the description section about cylinder cutoff and running ignition timing at TDC is just noise. The only stuff that legally counts is what's in the claims.

HP2g engine has been EPA TESTED
 

The HP2g engine has been EPA TESTED and Exceeds 2016 EPA emissions standards by 2/3 LESS.

Would this be the May 2009 "EPA" test- likely an ordinary sniffer test done by the local yocals?

Would you look at that- Doug has a Topaz diesel! Doug- why does your Topaz weigh 1,000 lbs more than all the others? You are supposed to get out of the car when it's weighed.

Weighing a vehicle
 

I weigh my vehicles the same as it is driven.

So please explain how your engine works. Non-patent speak would help...

Cue the obfuscating! He will not elaborate in clear language, if memory serves. What will follow will be hemming, hawing, claiming intellectual property and keeping things close to the vest so Big Bad Corporations don't try to either buy him out, block him or have him killed down some dark alley and buried under one of the sidelines at Giants Stadium.

They'll rebuild Giants Stadium just to keep his miracle ultra futuristic confabulation hushed up, that's how important this is.

Doug, I'll gladly eat my words - not fooling, I will print them out, take a picture of myself eating the paper and post that picture here if you can provide better documentation than this stuff we've seen. "EPA testing" would mean giving the car to the actual EPA, not having its emissions checked at an inspection garage.

It doesn't have to be the EPA. If you wanted to get it thoroughly examined by the folks at Consumer Reports that would be fine, I tend to view their assessments as highly reliable.

I used to do that annual emissions inspection. I was 17, got minimum wage, and the boss said if the customer had $50, his car passed. So I would prefer to see a little - no, I'd rather see a lot more provenance before I accept your claims as stated. You've generated some bad karma here in the past and will have to reach a bit higher to overcome that before I can give you the credence you feel you've earned.

If true, then post a copy of the report.

You might keep in mind that this site has people who have demonstrated better than 30MPG from a stock full size pickup truck driven on public roads. If you really had an engine that worked, and that engine was in a real car, there are several people on this site who would be more than happy to test drive it and publish the results. You can weld the hood shut if you want.

On the other hand, if you want to convince us that you are still a windbag, you can obfuscate and change the subject.

Demonstration of the HP2g Engine in the Revenge Verde Super Car for the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS)

(The engine sound on the video is the HP2g in power mode)

See YouTube Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dKlOCde4Vk

Sounds cool. Is your engine in a working vehicle? If so, why don't you take a video of that?

That's 1:40 I want back.

I agree with mikeyjd, a video of the actual car/engine would be better. If you can record sound why not video, lets see the motor up close and personal running.

Excuses in 3, 2, 1...

One thing I would like to know.

At 65 mph getting 138 mpg average. How many lbs/hr of E85 fuel are you using

No motor only animation ? easy to live up to its claims in cartoon land.

I will go draw up a Super electromagnetic collider powered train and post back my groundbreaking "theory".

Business partners or investors will be Welcome !


This idea is My property alone , anyone caught misusing the rights will be punished to the Full degree of the law
also ridiculed.

Okay, so your engine deactivates cylinders, has electro magnets in the cylinders and has a built in system so the crankshaft acts like an electric motor. I'm left with a lot of questions...

When is the electric crankshaft motor adding power? With a V-8, I wouldn't think you'd need any assistance in reaching 400 hp. Does the test car use a battery pack or is this motor generating that much energy and not storing it? If the motor is making that much energy, doesn't that use valuable E85 power just to spin a generator/alternator? It takes energy to make electricity, so how much fuel is used just to power the electric motor crankshaft? Isn't this the same argument as HHO systems? In real applications, it would take a large amount of electricity to generate an ample amount of hydrogen, which would end up making the engine use way more fuel? How much torque can your electric motor crankshaft deliver?

How do the magnets work? Do they pull and then push the piston down? I am assuming the pistons have a piece of iron in them or an electromagnet of some sort. Does that add a lot of weight to the rotating mass of the engine? Is this used in conjunction with the electric crankshaft motor, like running both at the same time?

During the cylinder deactivation, are the valves opening to allow the rotating mass to spin freely or do the valves stay shut? During cylinder deactivation, are the cylinder magnets running and is the crankshaft electric motor running? Can one cylinder effectively push the vehicle along and generate enough electricity to power the magnets/motor?

Do you have any pictures of this engine? I'd like to see what you have aside from an animated Youtube video. It’s patented, so would it hurt to show us a few pics of the crankshaft and cylinder magnets??

Excuse me for not reading the patent, but wouldn't all that stuff have to be in there? - in detail?

Seems like there's some "press" on this thing from the videos that came up. The guy with the English accent lends credibility, doesn't he?

No. Mr. Bean had an English accent and one of his most significant car-related accomplishments was turning them over, riding on the roof, etc.

The patent uses a lot of big words (not that I am dumb, but I don't speak legal very well...) and is pretty tough to follow. I was hoping for a simple explanation and some pictures...

I too would like more information on Doug's engine technology.

To start out I would love to have a conversation on this forum about his "Skip Fire" idea. It would be great to know some real basic fuel, heat, and air numbers?

Then after that we could talk about his internal electromagnetic engine idea.

If Doug wants to get respect on this forum "the largest fuel economy forum in the world" then he will have to use real Science and Physics to explain himself? So far in all of Doug's video's, it sounds more like a campaign/plug for $$$ to his untested second-party cause. Doug uses a lot of conspiracy catch phrases and words, trying to get people to believe in his idea. "The Auto makers are Bad, Gasoline is dirty, Big Oil company's Bad, people need jobs" etc. This makes people believe in Doug because it what the people want to hear. On this forum we want real numbers, real facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I live in Northwest Ohio. I'd be happy to test drive. Or just show you a REAL fuel efficient Mustang.

GAH! When luring someone into a trap, never give it up! First provoke for them to say "Yes, it's running in a car!" and THEN, call the bluff and ask for image/video.

When they read this, the immediate thought is "Oh, no, the final design isn't quite ready..."

rather than

"Oh yea, she runs great!" - "Let's see it!" - "Uhh..."

I look forward to losing next year at the GGP, Doug.