HyTronX: on-demand hydrogen injection
 

I met reps from the HyTronX corporation at the Montreal International Startup Festival this past weekend. They were showing off a system that generates hydrogen on demand and pipes it into the engine after the air filter. There's a little box in the trunk that generates the hydrogen from distilled water and then it's piped to the intake:

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Here's their website: hytronx.com

I told the CEO that it's too bad he didn't participate in the local Economy Run as this would have been a great way to show off the technology and spark up some good conversation with eco-minded individuals. There are fleet vehicles in Montreal using the system right now and I figured I'd post the links here to incite some good discussion. For my part, I'm still wrapping my head around how the motive energy gained is greater than that required for the on-demand electrolysis.

Yah... Good luck with that.

If this HyTronX thingy is being marketed with that above statement in mind, then the company is a) truly ignorant of the principles behind an internal combustion engine, b) is trying to use said ignorance of their customers in order to rip them off, or c) a combination of a and b.

All the other uses of hydrogen injection amount to a rather novel and dangerous method of water injection in order to allow somebody to lean out their gasoline engine without destroying it.

A "hydrogen generator" maker based in canada is about as legit as one of those emails from nigeria.

I would have told him it's too bad he didn't go bungee jumping without a bungee.

HOW MUCH DOES THE HTX-EnerG™ SYSTEM COST?
Smaller vehicle (to 4.6L engine) $1,550.00 Cdn
Larger vehicle (to 7.8L engine) $2,950.00 Cdn
(Taxes and installation costs are extra)

-m

...P.T.Barum's famous (and appropriate) business saying: "...a FOOL and his MONEY are soon PARTED."

That "little box" looks like it has a battery in it. My guess is the fuel economy would be better if you disconnect the hydrogen generator, wire the battery into the electrical system and delete the alternator. Be a lot cheaper too.

ouch!

I think will go with a home made Hydrogen injection system on my diesel eventually. Buy I'm going to use an ingenious solution to store the H by using a 2:1 ratio to oxygen to keep it stable

Well, you want to be careful with that 2:1 ratio. Dihydrogen monoxide can be some dangerous stuff. It kills thousands of people every year, and it's been found inside of cancerous tumors.

UFO -

Using this packaging makes a lot of sense to me. I like to describe HHO gizmos as "broken batteries" because in the old daze a side effect of malfunctioning batteries might be the emission of hydrogen which could lead to explosions. HHO gizmos have similar construction to batteries but are "broken by design".

CarloSW2

Dihydrogen Monoxide
 

Yes, it does! It's a major contributing factor in ALL skiing injuries, ALL boating accidents, and most household accidental deaths. It's the most dangerous substance on the planet!

Hydrogen and oxygen don't react at normal temperatures ... as long as there's no ignition energy to set them off.
Friction or electrostatic discharge will set it of though.

The safest way to store H2 is in a purpose-built pressure vessel, storing only H2 .


DIY-ing with H2 is not something I'd recommend to anyone.

Its also involved most nuclear reactor melt downs.

I was implying that I am going to inject water into the airstream to cool the charge and use the expansion of the liquid from the detonation of the diesel fuel.

Now HHO is not just for land lubbers!

Hydrogen on Demand (oxy hydrogen / oxyhydrogen, hydroxy) For Commercial Vehicles Plant and Ships

"The hydroxy gas output of the electrolyzer is routed to the vehicle’s air intake and vacuum intake manifold. The smaller molecules of the hydroxy gas strike the larger pre-heated fuel molecules and combust breaking down the covalent bonds even further and atomizing the gasoline or diesel hence we are adding a combustaion catalyst." - taken from the 'How It Works' tab!

... please work your unicorn magic !! :eek: