If You Are Doing Nothing Wrong You Have PLENTY to Fear
 

This one in particular, "7. Norman Gurley was arrested in Lorain County, Ohio, because a compartment in his car could have been used to transport drugs." should have everyone on here wary of Ohio. If you make these aero mods to your car it could be considered as a "trap car" because it has been modified...stupid.

I actually got pulled over in a small town in Texas driving my Infiniti Q45 w a body kit. Was told that drug runners use the extra compartments to run drugs. The the officer have a full guided tour.... He knew more about econmodder than he wanted to by the time he was thru. Actually apologized for taking my time. Two local sherif cars had pulled up around me during the process

and thats just the beginning. Dumb Laws in Virginia. Crazy Virginia Laws. We have weird laws, strange laws, and just plain crazy laws! :eek:

The answer to any question by an officer is "no". If you have to ask, then you don't have the authority.

It is quite sad that the US is going the way of Western Europe. I'm not saying that everything in Western Europe is bad. What is bad is that W. Europe seems to be following E. Europe.

I suppose that the reason Russia and the US are not able to get along is partially because they are too similar.

Not surprising, that is what happens when a nation decides it doesn't need God. Once again, religion and politics go together for me.

This kind of stuff is the reason I think all laws should have an expiration date. 10 years sounds about right.

Technically in Virginia a Pruis is illegal as coasting in neutral was made illegal 80 years ago.

regards
Mech

You May Already Be an FBI Terror Suspect: 85 Things Not to Do

While you're at it,
Remember: the DHS wants you to build a two week stockpile of food to prepare for disasters.
And
Remember: the DHS wants you to report people like antigovernment extremists who stockpile food.

Hello, Mr. DHS Sir, I am reporting that I stockpiled food as you requested. Wait, handcuffs?!

The NSA will provide a recording of that call so they can enter it as a guilty plea.

Ooooops. ;)

Hearing "DHS" makes this Pennsyltuckian sad.

We had a great, honest, down-to-earth governor named Tom Ridge. He bicycled around the state during his campaign! As governor, he created bike routes across the state, complete with road signs. He was a Republican, but far, far more than that he was a practical, pragmatic man. Vietnam vet. A citizen who wanted to serve his country some more.

Shrub conned him into heading up the DHS after 9/11. Poor, honest, forthright Mr. Ridge fell into the cesspool and never came out. My state lost a true jewel of a man as governor, and I daresay the nation lost one of the few remaining human being politicians.

Tom Ridge for president. Where are you, Tom. You have one vote, unequivocally.

Now if you know you are guilty, suggesting or admitting to a lesser offense can make both jobs easier of the cop and you.

For example lets say you were going over the speed limit. Cop pulls you over and asks do you know why I pulled you over? Yes sir, failure to signal. :thumbup:

Not quite...at least one motor is in gear (so to speak) at all times, even when gliding. Even though the electric motor only has one gear...it is still "in" gear.

"§ 46.2-811
Coasting prohibited.

The driver of any motor vehicle traveling on a downgrade on any highway shall not coast with the gears of the vehicle in neutral."

Do I have any legal recourse if the officer winks at me?

Hm... no coasting in neutral. I suppose they mean for people to "save the environment" by having people wear their clutch bearings out, right? There is probably some genius out there that has made a lever to keep his clutch in so he doesn't have to coast in neutral...

Also, I suppose that means that it's illegal to use a wheelbarrow or a wagon, as they "coast".

I do not recommend coasting downhill in a wheelbarrow or wagon.

When I was a kid, a friend pushed me into a wall while I rode in a grocery cart. I recommend against riding in those, too.

Honest, forthright jewels who can't control themselves managing one department should never be put in charge of the whole store.

I agreed to a ticket for 70 once. We both knew that wasn't my actual speed but he was happy to nail me for speeding without a huge fight, I was happy that it was only for 70 (and only for speeding) and we were both happy to move on with our lives. It was a win-win.

If my engine is off do I still fall under Virginia's definition of coasting, or will they ticket me for being parked in the right lane at 60 mph?

I'm always honest with police or others in official positions. When they decide to cross "the line" I have had great success in face to face direct communication with the judge. A trooper stopped me I95 south of Dc for 80 in a 65 zone. When he walked up to the window (it was dark) he told me he had clocked me at 80. I said "that sounds about right, did you see the idiot that passed me on the right and then pulled over two car lengths in front of me. He said "yes". I told him I was just trying to get away from anyone who drove so stupidly. He gave me a warning instead of a ticket, but shadowed me for 45 miles before passing me and waving on the beltway around east Richmond.

Had a cop tell me if I am sitting at an intersection and see someone getting ready to plow into my arse, the law requires me to sit there and get hit, a potentially deadly situation.

No law requires me to accept a situation where I could be injured or killed.

I would have no problem convincing the judge of that fact.

regards
Mech

I seriously doubt anyone got a ticket for this unless it was determined after the fact it was the cause of an accident or admitted to during questioning, but no other driving violations existed.

Im sure the rule originated from a few noob commercial truckers coasting down a hill and discover how fast 80 thousand pounds can go and how difficult it can be to get it back in gear. Rules are just a cause/effect reaction with little research into how effective it would be.

Actually the Va no coasting law was passed in the 1930s. Plymouth came out with a car with freewheeling around 1935, a one way clutch that could not be engaged or disengaged unless the car was stopped. After a few drivers, unaware of the nasty downhill portions of several routes through the mountains, like US 50 and I think 33, ran off the mountain and some were killed the law was passed making the use of the freewheeling capability illegal.

Modern brakes are much better and probably could prevent the same thing from happening, but I almost got killed in a head on when the oncoming Subaru flew into my lane, barely going over the gaurd rail himself and dropping off an 800 foot, very steep cliff.

Few cops know about the law anymore and I have not heard of it being enforced any time in recent years.

regards
Mech

I laughed way too hard at this haha.

I agree completely with you. I'm the same way with those in official...and usually unofficial positions. But I have also seen where some people have gotten the raw end of the deal of being an honest person. My uncle has had quite a few of those situations.

Though...I had one day a cop pulled me over and told me he clocked me doing 66 in a 55. This is back when I had a little 2.0 4cyl in a 94 sunbird with 200k miles on it. On top of everything else, it was uphill (very steep hill) and I was doing some tests at maintaining 45 to see how it affected mileage. Not being entirely happy with the accusation...I asked him which tree he clocked because there's no way I was doing 66. Wasn't the smartest thing I could have said >.>. He gave me a ticket, took it to an unofficial hearing, judge let it go.

As for sitting and being hit or moving out of the way...depends on how much I still owed on the car and if there was heavy cross traffic. Might just let them hit me and have the insurance pay the car off.

To be honest, I believe that I sustained at least one TBI in my childhood. At least a couple of times I have talked to Army doctors about the time in Basic that a female Soldier hit me in the forehead with the buttstock of her rifle. They ask if I lost consciousness, I said "No," and they said that I did not suffer a TBI.

That is invalid.

I just finished a second Bachelor's and did so poorly that I am trying to transfer to another school in-state to retake the classes, graduate with a higher GPA, actually get into grad school, and have a chance at graduating and paying off my student loans.

There is something seriously wrong with my memory.

Can confirm, incorrigible nice guy here, people always take advantage of me.

As for what I would do if someone was going to rear-end me, that really depends on whether I have enough time for the gerbil in my head to get the wheel up to speed; I would think that it depends on the situation. I just might suddenly turn right. If I get cited for not signaling properly, I should be able to fight it.

What do you do if you are about to be hit hard from the rear, but you would be hit by oncoming traffic if you enter the intersection?

As for whether the car is paid off or not, I would be more interested in who or what is in my car. At the moment, I have thirty cans of green beans and a fair amount of tools in the back of my car. If I am rear-ended, any of that could kill me, or worse, get me expelled from Hogwart's.

If I have family in the car, I will try to protect them. If my boss was making me drive him somewhere, I will obey the law, and apply for his position.

Eastern Europe still is plagued by some of the effects of the dark Perestroika times, but what surprises me is how many fools still endorse Communism. And I gotta agree with you about the extremist Atheists having an important role on this problem with their anti-religion (mostly anti-Christian and anti-Jewish) whining.

Ever heard of super patriotic Americans?

Now you understand why there are many who still like the "good old days" of communism. They were taught that way. They have selective memories--forget what was bad, remember the good. The communist system did have some good points, like the "fact" that everyone was supposedly "equal". That meant redistributing the poverty. They also were usually not as materialistic as westerners, or they just didn't show it as much.

Every system has good and bad points. Nothing will be perfect until heaven.

It's more a matter of family values, including religious values, than political systems, and nowadays the socialists are using the materialism and entitlement mentality to approach to some lazy fools who still get caught by their "revolutionary" speech, and I see it currently in Brazil and some neighboring countries such as Venezuela. I can't really see any advantage in the left wing anyway...

What!!!!
You can't be materialistic if you are in poverty !
Communism creates "non-materialism".

According to my definition, materialism is wanting to have lots of posessions, even if you don't need them.

People in the communist countries want conveniences that are not necessary. They don't really have access to get them though.

So, not people in communists countries are materialists at heart even though they cannot actually have what they want.

Well, that's my definition, I'm not sure of what others have to say...

30 out of 300 million is pretty good odds that it wont be me.

Saabs had freewheels through the 1960's and 1970's. The old 93 and 95, I think maybe the Sonnett too. I used to freewheel for miles and miles.

Freewheels are/were often used on two-stroke vehicles where closing the throttle and letting the vehicle be "pushed" would cause oil starvation. This is only a problem with engines running mixed fuels, as engines with a pump keep a constant supply of oil even if they get no fuel.

My Saab was a 4 stroke V4.

My 1985 ZAZ 968m has a 0.9l V4 in it...

Everything Is Broken

Sleep tight.

Edit: Hmmph. Another multipage thread — it seems to have gone a little off-topic. Maybe the mods could move it to General Effieciency.

Here's where it goes off the rails for me:

Is this saying that not-not people, or not little people could have what they want. That system will fail. :)

Anyways we live in an increasingly post-scarcity society and Quinn Norton is an awesome tech writer if your not familiar with her work. This is a good summary of our current dire straits.

New post to bump the thread.

Pennsylvania law enforcement just won the battle, simultaneous no warrant vehicle searches, and they got a law passed to make hidden compartments illegal

I've got a plywood lid over some tire chains and a tow strap, I'd be on thin ice in Ohio or Pennsylvania.

This is ridiculous, America is becoming just like any 3rd-world country ruled by corrupts who take all the freedom for the citizens to defend themselves against abusive governmental acts...

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If thats the case, then it should be open season on motorist as many cars have compartments for spare tires, jacks, etc. :snail: