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BamZipPow 01-12-2015 11:07 AM

Interior mirrors...
 
Pilot Automotive makes what they call the Ultimate Adjustable Blind Spot Mirror, part number MI-142Z. It's not listed on their website and I've only found it at AutoZone for $11.99. I've found it on eBay fer about $20 shipped from other sellers. It's designed to stick to your windshield with 3M tape and can be adjusted up/down about 4", swivel, mirror is offset so you can flip it over,and the arm can be raised/lowered as well. The mirror is made from glass instead of plastic and should hold up to fine scratches that plague the plastic ones. :D

Link...
http://www.autozone.com/exterior/bli...or/257122_0_0/

I've pulled my previous blind spot mirror out and replaced it with the Pilot Automotive one after I took it apart and hard mounted it to the A pillar trim.

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...pshhu7gbdw.jpg

kafer65 01-12-2015 11:17 AM

I've been trying to find out who I got the idea from on here. I remembered that someone was modifying them in some way. Thanks for the update!. I was just thinking of getting another set just in case they stopped selling them. I got them at autozone too. They are much better than my stock side mirrors for reducing nighttime glare from the newer oem ultra bright headlights that feel like they're on highbeam aimed at my retinas:cool: I can see much better around the driver's side as well. I use the passenger's sideview pilot mirror in combo with the rearview spot mirror to see along the passenger side better too.

BamZipPow 01-12-2015 11:18 AM

Here's my current layout. You can see that I haven't replaced the left mirror yet. ;)

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psghnauuts.jpg

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psuydn1qzy.jpg

kafer65 01-12-2015 12:09 PM

Now that's an interior setup:thumbup: Teslas got nothing on the touchscreen acreage there!

dirtydave 01-12-2015 03:38 PM

how well do they work at night? can you take off the outside mirrors now? I know its a pickup with a trailer. and you need good mirrors.But for a car? I was just about to buy some $5 3" plastic round mirrors as I will need them when my boat tail is complete. I should spend a little more if they are worth the cash..

BamZipPow 01-12-2015 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydave (Post 463334)
how well do they work at night? can you take off the outside mirrors now? I know its a pickup with a trailer. and you need good mirrors.But for a car? I was just about to buy some $5 3" plastic round mirrors as I will need them when my boat tail is complete. I should spend a little more if they are worth the cash..

I'll find out how well they work tonight. These are supposed to have an anti-glare coating on them. I didn't have any issues with glare on the previous ones since the headlights aren't directly aimed at the mirrors unlike the outside ones so I don't expect these to have any issues either. ;)

I like the fact that these mirrors are glass. I had some serious issues with scratches building up on the plastic lenses. The previous mirrors I had aren't made any more so this was my next progression. I have noticed that the angle isn't as wide as my previous version but hopefully I'll be able to adapt quickly to the new ones.

I never liked the blind spot mirrors on the outside...especially during inclement weather like rain/mist/snow/sleet/ice/fog as both the window and the mirror gits moisture on the surfaces making it near to impossible to see the mirror's reflective surface cleanly. The interior mirror doesn't suffer from that issue as there is only one surface (window) that can affect its performance and on my truck, my vent visors provides a clear spot where the blind spot mirror can usually see cleanly through. ;)

My interior mirrors were never meant to replace the outside mirrors as they can never git the direct rear view along the side of the truck that I need when backing up. The blind spot mirrors can't git that angle as they are inside the vehicle. I won't be removing my outside mirrors anytime soon. However, I will try a small blind spot mirror that I can mount on the edge of the mirror so I can see when the mirror is folded in...but I think that real estate will win out. :D

MobilOne 01-13-2015 02:55 AM

Is the image on the small mirrors large enough to see well?

dirtydave 01-13-2015 09:16 AM

I need 1 outside mirror for MD law. I disobeyed the law before :eek: and took them both off. I hated it. I was nervous all the time and put it back on the next day. I don't need both sides just the drivers side. If traffic were slower I would be fine I'm going the speed limit everyone else is going 20-30MPH higher.

I was thinking about using this for the outside mirror as it looks to be about half the size of the stock one.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ywixCVrTL.jpg
"only use the top part outside"

And two more interior mirrors. now you show me these I am second guessing myself!

kafer65 01-13-2015 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobilOne (Post 463396)
Is the image on the small mirrors large enough to see well?

If I may respond within BAMzipPow's thread,
I have the mirrors on both sides and I like them more than the OEMs. The nighttime visibility was a pleasant surprise I didn't anticipate with respect to high intensity light. I have very good vision so if you have problems see far I can't speak to the results you would have with them. I have a bigger problem with placement since the A pillars are an interferance. I understand why BAMzipPow wanted to mount the passenger one on the pillar instead of the windshield. It gets it closer to the side glass and around the pillar. If I follow his path I may not even need the spot mirror on the rearview for the cars further behind me. I'm extremely pleased with the one on the driver's side. Its plenty big there.

dirtydave 01-13-2015 09:50 AM

Awesome thanks buddy!

BamZipPow 01-13-2015 10:39 AM

No issues with glare last night. Still trying to git used to the smaller angle of view. I'll try to mount the driver's side today and see how that goes. ;)

As far as image size goes, the passenger side one is large enough to see with fer my needs. I'm sure the driver's side one will work equally as well. :D

dirtydave 01-13-2015 11:21 AM

Nice! thanks man. Id rather spend $20 and get something good then buy a cheap set only to end up buying the more expensive set down the road! My eyes suck at night time and glare is the main killer for me! I'm glad they work good. Thanks again guys!

BamZipPow 01-13-2015 12:32 PM

All done! I mounted the mirror off of my Panavise mount fer my GPS. ;)

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps5zkx0nfb.jpg

BamZipPow 01-13-2015 02:17 PM

Trying out mirrors on the edge of my folded mirror to see how that will work. ;)

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...pshinejcb0.jpg

HiFlite 01-13-2015 05:19 PM

Hopefully you don't have airbags deploying from the A-pillar. That's a lot of hardware to come flying back at 100 mph. :(

BamZipPow 01-13-2015 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiFlite (Post 463478)
Hopefully you don't have airbags deploying from the A-pillar. That's a lot of hardware to come flying back at 100 mph. :(

Nope, this old truck only has one air bag and that's in the steering wheel. There isn't even one on the passenger side so my son can ride up front on long drives. ;)

BamZipPow 01-13-2015 06:10 PM

With the driver's mirror folded in, I can easily see along side of my truck and to the left just fine without any issues so far. I was able to back up and see the curb line this afternoon at the school. :D

I'll have to try a set on the passenger side but I think those mirrors will be too small to see any significant amount of details...but I won't know until I try, right? ;)

Vman455 01-13-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiFlite (Post 463478)
Hopefully you don't have airbags deploying from the A-pillar. That's a lot of hardware to come flying back at 100 mph. :(

I considered this before mounting an interior mirror on the A-pillar trim. On my car, and I suspect most with side curtain airbags, the panel simply pops on and has no seams where the airbag sits; in other words, it looks like the force of the airbag simply pops the panel off and out of the way (down and toward the dash in my car) as the airbag inflates.

mikeyjd 01-14-2015 08:49 AM

Could you please expound upon how you mounted the passenger side interior mirror? Does it come with the mounting bracket?

kafer65 01-14-2015 01:45 PM

It comes with an adjustable plastic angle iron bracket with two sided tape on one facet of the bracket and the punch out holes for locking the sliding adjustment for the mirror arm on the other facet. BAMzipPow just removed the adjustable mounting to mount the arm directlyon the A-pillar.

mikeyjd 01-14-2015 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kafer65 (Post 463567)
It comes with an adjustable plastic angle iron bracket with two sided tape on one facet of the bracket and the punch out holes for locking the sliding adjustment for the mirror arm on the other facet. BAMzipPow just removed the adjustable mounting to mount the arm directlyon the A-pillar.

Just picked up one and I really like it. I'm gonna pick up one for the other side on the way home :)

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...99&oe=5522817F
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...53081668846a63

kafer65 01-14-2015 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiFlite (Post 463478)
Hopefully you don't have airbags deploying from the A-pillar. That's a lot of hardware to come flying back at 100 mph. :(

I found several references to mounting gauges and such on the A-pillar panel and mounting on the lower third to avoid the curtain bags in there. The panels are held by spring clips. The bags seem to be designed to push the panels out of the spring clip holds when deployed. I may try clamping to the panel on the passenger side instead of mounting through it on mine. Maybe a longer gooseneck stem to get the mirror closer to the side glass.

BamZipPow 01-14-2015 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyjd (Post 463542)
Could you please expound upon how you mounted the passenger side interior mirror? Does it come with the mounting bracket?

I took the mounting system apart and mounted it through the A pillar trim. I pulled the trim off to see what I could mount it to in case there was a threaded nut I could use to mount a bracket to and then mount the mirror arm to that. I ended up marking and then screwing the arm into the A pillar trim. ;)

BamZipPow 01-14-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyjd (Post 463576)
Just picked up one and I really like it. I'm gonna pick up one for the other side on the way home :)

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...99&oe=5522817F
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...53081668846a63

Since you have the grip handles on the A pillar, you could easily make a bracket that could be fastened to the lower bolt that would allow the mirror arm to be mounted to. Don't be afraid to take the unit apart. ;)

Baltothewolf 01-14-2015 06:11 PM

Nobody really answered this, but could you remove your outside sideview mirrors and replace them with these on the inside?

mikeyjd 01-14-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamZipPow (Post 463610)
Since you have the grip handles on the A pillar, you could easily make a bracket that could be fastened to the lower bolt that would allow the mirror arm to be mounted to. Don't be afraid to take the unit apart. ;)

I adjusted things a bit more and zip tied the mirror to the handle for better rigidity. I calculated about 30' is when traffic appears in the driver side.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...4dfa42dc480142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltothewolf (Post 463614)
Nobody really answered this, but could you remove your outside sideview mirrors and replace them with these on the inside?

I would say on a vehicle where you will be using a trailer that it would not be advisable to do so. I would not want to be without the option of my regular mirrors if I had a full load in back and a 12' trailer attached. I would say they are good enough for cruising around with though, especially if you have any kind of rear view mirror. You will have to try it and see what you're comfortable with, and what suits your personal needs though :)

BamZipPow 01-14-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltothewolf (Post 463614)
Nobody really answered this, but could you remove your outside sideview mirrors and replace them with these on the inside?

I guess it depends on how much you depend on yer mirror angle of view. By removing the outside mirrors and just using the blind spot mirror to see rearward, you will miss out on the view along side yer vehicle and back. Because the exterior mirror is outside, it provides that angle of view that the interior blind spot mirror can never achieve. I personally didn't feel comfortable with the outside mirror (folded in in my case) view missing especially when I was trying to back up. ;)

aerohead 01-14-2015 06:19 PM

replace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltothewolf (Post 463614)
Nobody really answered this, but could you remove your outside sideview mirrors and replace them with these on the inside?

Not legally.So far,'other' mirrors are replacing OEM units with some members,and they're augmenting these with interior units for added safety.
You need to know your driving environment at all times.Saving fuel isn't worth your property,that of others,and health/life.

freebeard 01-14-2015 08:58 PM

"Situational awareness"

Baltothewolf 01-14-2015 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerohead (Post 463618)
Not legally.So far,'other' mirrors are replacing OEM units with some members,and they're augmenting these with interior units for added safety.
You need to know your driving environment at all times.Saving fuel isn't worth your property,that of others,and health/life.

I completely agree. When I asked the question, I meant are they suitable replacements for outside mirrors, hence why I didn't ask if it was legal or not :P.

Now that I see the responses, I'll take that as a no.

dirtydave 01-15-2015 08:49 AM

By law here I need one outside mirror.
I have removed my passenger side mirror a week after I got my car and never missed it. I can just turn my head around and look. You cant do that with a pickup and a trailer. I removed my drivers side mirror and couldn't see good enough to be considered safe.(regardless of the law)

I am working (slowly) on a boat tail and will sacrifice rear vision for better Aero. I need to replace the rear vision I am losing. I am going to get that smaller outside mirror I posted a picture of in this thread, put it outside on the drivers side and get these good interior mirrors. Hopefully that will be enough. If not I will add more interior mirrors. If that isn't good enough I will add an outside mirror to the passenger side. (both equal about the same frontal area of one stock mirror) If that isn't good enough I will get a camera system.

kafer65 01-15-2015 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltothewolf (Post 463643)
I meant are they suitable replacements for outside mirrors, hence why I didn't ask if it was legal or not :P.

Now that I see the responses, I'll take that as a no.

Well in my case the answer IS yes. If you look on the Silver's build thread I replace both of my side mirrors with interior mirrors. I don't have the same concerns about towing that the others have. I like them much better than OEM for view angles around my blind spots. I have 4 mirrors firmly fixed and thats more than meet the requirements in my state. I carry a copy of it in my glove box in case I need to review it with someone:cool:

BamZipPow 01-15-2015 10:53 AM

Driver's mirror folded in...
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psn6hx7mkd.jpg

Passenger's mirror folded in...
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psoovbsr9t.jpg

Edge mirrors on the driver's folded mirror...
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psih2zkqbw.jpg

Clip-on mirror on the passenger's folded mirror...
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...pshivwvwzf.jpg

Interior view of the clip-on mirror...
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...pspktklvaw.jpg

I'll only be folding in the mirrors when I'm doing long drives and clipping on the clip-on mirror at that time. During my local runs, the both exterior mirrors will be folded out to their normal positions. I'm not sure how well the small mirrors will do in inclement weather but I will guess they won't be of much help and I'll have to fold my mirrors back out. ;)

mikeyjd 01-17-2015 01:38 PM

My current setup

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...99c339b54a8464
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...d9&oe=5531369D

BamZipPow 01-17-2015 02:02 PM

I see you took the same path as I did... :D

I didn't like how the vertical mirror turned out on mine so that's why I went horizontal. I may add another mirror on top of that giving me 3 mirrors on the edge of the folded driver's mirror. ;)

mikeyjd 01-17-2015 02:10 PM

Haha yeah the vertical mirror ended up being kind worthless. I was thinking about adding a 2nd matching interior mirror on the passenger side at the other screw slot. I think that would give me adequate vision without the extrior mirror on most ocassions.

BamZipPow 01-17-2015 02:59 PM

I would really try a mirror on the outside as you need that angle to see along the side of the truck. ;)

Enki 02-26-2015 01:37 PM

I'm going to be experimenting with printed cases for Raspberry Pi cameras (which are quite small) for my next daily and race car instead of using mirrors altogether.

I've been testing a Pi (Model B) long term as a media server and have had zero issues with it being run for more than 12 hours a day every day for the past few years, so I'm not really worried about that aspect of it; it's the little HDMI 7" monitors I bought from Ebay that have had issues, but I'm sure I can figure another way around that before long.

Image quality is quite good (https://vimeo.com/68099584), plus you can view live on the monitor AND save the capture to a raw h.264 file (making it small) in real time; I intend on having 4 of these going and feeding a carputer with data when the time comes.

Have you considered this as an option?

Opium 02-26-2015 03:22 PM

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Nice job!:thumbup:
Here is the thread of mine that I did 3 years ago with Pilot Automotive mirrors. I also took off my mirrors.:cool:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/easy-mirror-delete-mod-20871.html

Pilot Automotive have different shape mirrors. So far I've seen the ones you have, circular shaped (currently have installed), and rectangle shaped mirrors (currently have but not installed).

PaulB2 02-26-2015 10:32 PM

I have fooled with interior mirrors and haven't had much luck with them. They are usually too small and too curved. The best interior setup I have used has been the old, superwide Wink mirrors. Ugly as Hell but panoramic view of the rear and sides.


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