just received electric bill. $9, 107 kwh
fiiiiinnnnnaaaalllllyyyy broke $6!! actual energy use was $5.90 but here in CA we get to pay an extra $4 to pick up slack for irresponsible ppl. cannot wait until some paralegal or lier picks up on the fact that is it unconstitutional to force some one to pay another persons bill.
killer class action lawsuit that will be! IIRC that was also the big boy's doing, besides his shopping spree - what is he up to now? 4 trillion? regardless. this bill refelcts 2 ppl, one full size dog, one 2x size cat, electic cooking and a shop with light power tool use. unbeliveable? ok, here is something else: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ake-15155.html |
How many kwh?
In MN the fee structure is opposite of CA: the more you use, the cheaper the kwhs get, and the more the small users (like me) get to kick in to subsidize the large users. The "facilities fee"- just for being hooked up to the grid- has nearly doubled to $19/mo just in the last couple years. :mad: Good luck with that illegal to pay someone else's bill thing. We do it all the time: by virtue of owning a house, I pay for someone else's schooling, and so on. |
I'm paying more for the hookup fee than for the electricity.
Frank, does the marginal price per KWh change? Here, unless you are a commercial or industrial customer, you pay $16/mo + $.12/KWh, regardless of how much you use. Since the marginal price is constant, there is no incentive to use more. The utility actually has to compete with third parties on the electricity they sell, but they have a monopoly on hookup and delivery, so that's where they schedule their profit. |
Electrical energy charges [for a House & Garage...]
90kwh consumed [September 18 too October 18] $0.88 Credit from last bill $5.33/90kwh [$0.059/kwh]:cool: $6.25 Administration Charge:( $11.58 Sub Total Delivery Charges $17.81 Distribution Charge $1.55 Transmission Charge $0.79 2010 Transmission Adjustment Rider $0.19 Credit Balance Pool Allocation Rider $0.02 Local Access Fee $19.98 Sub Total $1.58 Good and Services Tax $33.14 Total New charges So the actual cost for 90kwh on my side of the meter is $0.368/kwh I payed $27.81 for the delivery of $5.33 worth of electricity! I have had bills of $24.00 for the consumption of 0kwh! Just emagine if it cost you $27 to drive onto a gas station lot to buy $5 worth of fuel?:eek: We might all be driving electric cars. What puzzels me is, if most other businesses can calculate and include fixed costs' into the price, why can't utillity companies? :confused:At least then if I used 0 kwh I wouldn't get a bill, and I would be the beneficiary of my effort to be "economical".:D |
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But I see your point, we get charged $11 per month for natural gas hook up, we only use natural gas for heating our house so for 8 months or more out of the year we don't use the service, almost $100 just to be hooked up without getting anything. |
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What gets me is the near doubling of the fee in such a short time. And the regressive rate structure. With the extra $9/mo, it feels like, why shouldn't I use more electricity? After all it's only a couple bux til I equal my fixed costs. |
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$20.10 of my electric bill is 'filler' - taxes, an automatic $6 'Customer Charge Fee', a GreenChoice charge of $1.27, Residential Litter fee of $ 5, and a 'Comprehensive Drainage fee of $ 7.75.
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107 kwh
oct 13 - nov 15 = 107 kwh
the $4 irresponsible customer aid program was to be deferred into taxes but it was much more seamless to do it like this. our homeowners taxes go toward all sorts of "causes" for some of them we would faint if we only knew, which is why they are difficult to track. an announced sur-charge dumped onto one of our bills easy to quantify. regardless, this is not a fluke. i have hovered just over $6 many times. |
When the utility is in charge of the "irresponsible customer aid" program, I'm sure it's used first and foremost to pay down bad debt that would otherwise be written off.
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