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aerohead 05-21-2016 03:05 PM

Li-on Wave II X-Prize entry
 
This car may be already covered in another thread.If so,I apologise for the redundancy.
Wave II was reported at Cd 0.157.No slacker,aerodynamically.
http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/...titled9_26.jpg
http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/...itled10_25.jpg
http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/...itled11_24.jpg
If she had 'conventional' mirrors she might come in at around Cd 0.166. Still pretty sweet.:)

gafhj 05-22-2016 09:08 AM

Why did they cut the rear wheel fairings well ahead of the back of the car? Looks like a lost opportunity to boat tail them.

NeilBlanchard 05-23-2016 12:39 PM

Phil, I saw this car at the X-Prize Knockout Round, and took a number of pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_5536.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_5534.jpg

Here's my original of the first picture in your post:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_5530.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_5524.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_5350.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_5270.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_5000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_4999.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_4840.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_4835.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_4834.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSC_4738.jpg

RustyLugNut 05-23-2016 12:42 PM

I always liked this design.
 
The Wave and the Aptera were two of the competitors in the Auto Xprize that seemed to elicit positive responses from the audience. They each could have made a niche market for themselves.

freebeard 05-23-2016 04:05 PM

When I was in high school I drew a sports car that was like that except it had open rear wheels and an exposed transaxle for RWD. The windshield angle was mimiced in the seat back angle. I wonder if that picture is still around.

Now, whenever I see something like this, I wonder what it would be like after a 50-50 morph with the Volkhart-Sagitta. Or the top half of the V-S on the bottom of the Wave II.

gafhj -- How about this: A fastback body generates inward and downward rotating vortexes. Might not an inverted fastback produce inward and upward rotating vortexes?

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...8-12-50-49.png

This car has two such. I think the wheelwell turbulence is thereby managed and exhausted upward into the rest of the wake, instead of spreading down onto the ground. Even if you were to completely boat tail the wheel and tire, you still have the wheelwell opening itself to contend with.

Longtail examples:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...-c-form-02.jpg

NeilBlanchard 05-23-2016 04:31 PM

My question about the Wave II is whether the underside is too steep? The top seems to be flatter than it needs to be.

freebeard 05-23-2016 07:12 PM

It's basically a diverter with parallel sidewalls and a curved top. If the sides diverged wouldn't the top need to be flatter to compensate? An area rule thing?

NeilBlanchard 05-24-2016 12:23 PM

I think the underside will generate some downforce, which will pull air from somewhere - in under the sides, and/or causing turbulence in the wake? Getting "replacement air" is most difficult and problematic under a moving vehicle, because the ground constricts the air flow.

freebeard 05-24-2016 12:42 PM

Perhaps the 'replacement air' gets pulled forward from the wake? Relatively speaking, of course.

Based on my experience with an R/C race car, it will suck dust up out of the pavement.

NeilBlanchard 05-25-2016 12:19 PM

Right - downforce equals drag.


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