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Measured aero pressures on Insight
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Incidentally, for those following other threads, you can clearly see how absurd the notion is that The Template wouldn't develop lots of lift - unless of course a great deal of attention is paid to the underside of the car.
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(I'll put up a new video with the revised measurements and measuring technique)
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I am curious about the reading of 500 pascals at the front of the car as this is greater than the stagnation pressure at 80 km/h.
velocity (m/s) = velocity (km/h) / 3.6 = 80 / 3.6 = 22.222 m/s air density at 10 C is 1.246 kg/m3 for std pressure Stagnation Pressure (Pa) = 0.5 * Density * Velocity ^ 2 = 0.5 * 1.246 * 22.222 ^ 2 " " = 307.6 Pascals This compares with your measurement of 500 Pascals. What actually causes the measured pressure to be greater than stagnation pressure? |
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Why is the measured stagnation pressure higher than it should be? I don't know. It could be the gauge, it could be the sensor, or it could be variation in measurement due to atmospheric conditions eg wind. In inches of water, the two stagnation pressure measurements were +1.7 (423 Pa) in one direction and +2.2 (550 Pa) in the other direction. That's a ratio of 1.3. Interestingly, the wake pressures also varied over the same range (+0.15 vs 0.2). In contrast, the other pressures were generally more consistent for the two directions. For stagnation pressure you could use the calculated value of 310 Pa over the actual measured value (not rounded) of 487 Pa (ie 310 / 487) as a multiplier for the other pressures (ie 0.64) if you wished - of course it wouldn't change the relativity of the readings. There's also another issue. I was using a 0-3 inches of water gauge and I picked a speed (80 km/h) that gave plenty of deflection (ie 2.2 inches of water) for the max measured pressure. However, that meant that I was working down the very bottom of the scale for measuring the smaller pressures. I could then have gone to one of my more sensitive gauges for these small pressures, but I didn't because I thought the chances of comparative error would be much higher (ie through using two different gauges). But if I were - say - developing a rear spoiler and wanted to measure the pressure change on the rear window, I would use a much more sensitive gauge (eg 120 Pa - 0.5 inches water - full scale deflection) for these measurements. |
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Thanks for the explanation.
Would it be feasible to use an electronic differential manometer such as this +/- 1 psi one. It has a resolution of 0.01" H2O and a full scale accuracy of +/- 1.0 percent. https://www.az-instrument.com.tw/en/...-82012-AZ.html |
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I try to avoid using instruments that are too expensive for normal modifiers. The low cost digital manometer I have has a highest resolution of 0.1 inch of water - no good. Edit - this looks good https://www.amazon.com.au/Perfect-Pr...22441494&psc=1 Second edit - just bought it. |
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